On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Ariel Mauricio Nunez Gomez <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Graham Dumpleton <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2008/11/5 Ariel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >    > I am using mod_wsgi for deployment but recently my apache
>> > installation on
>> >    > ubuntu 8.04 just locks after any start, stop or reload commands.
>> >    >
>> >    > I uninstalled it, wiped configuration settings, uninstallled
>> > mod_python that
>> >    > was installed just before it did not respond anymore.
>> >
>> >    It is a known problem that loading mod_python and mod_wsgi at the
>> > same
>> >    time causes problems if Python not installed with a usable shared
>> >    library.
>> >
>> >     http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/InstallationIssues
>> >
>> >    > Is there any other server I can install that works with modwsgi?
>> > (I am using
>> >    > trac and django on the same server configured via mod_wsgi)
>> >
>> >    You mean other than Apache?
>> >
>> >    It seems you haven't explored properly yet why you were having the
>> >    problems you were.
>> >
>> >    Graham
>> > -----
>> >
>> > Yeah, I really don't know what to do next, I already disabled
>> > mod_python.
>> >
>> > And tried rebooting my server but even though it says it is going for
>> > reboot it does not do so. (It is an Amazon EC2 instance so I am kind
>> > of afraid of terminating the instance, although I already made a
>> > backup of the most important stuff)
>> >
>> > Any advice on how to debug this? I checked apache logs but nothing
>> > there.
>>
>> When you say 'rebooting my server', do you mean just Apache or the
>> whole system? I don't know how Amazon EC2 works.
>>
>> If you mean just Apache, do be aware that when removing mod_python,
>> generally necessary to do a full 'stop' of Apache. It isn't always
>> enough to do an equivalent of 'apachectl restart' because mod_python
>> doesn't cleanup properly and tends no to unload correctly on a restart
>> where Apache parent process persists. Therefore causes issues for
>> mod_wsgi on the restart even though mod_python technically now
>> disabled.
>>
>> If you have a site you can point me to which explains how Amazon EC2
>> is set up, or if you or anyone else can explain what it really is,
>> ie., VPS, shared system of some sort, whether you have shell access
>> etc, that may help.
>
> Amazon EC2 is a VPS, but the instance does not have persistent storage,
> instead it is always loaded from an image (called AMI), that image is
> usually stored in S3. I did one snapshot after I finished configuring my
> server, but that was 4 months ago and I am afraid I (may) not have
> everything backed up. (Trac repos, mercurial repos, django database
> records).
> I have full ssh access and root account.
>
>
>> Anything from the Apache error log files would
>> also help, particularly the startup message which lists what modules
>> are loaded.
>>
>> Has anyone else here got experience with Amazon EC2 with or without
>> mod_wsgi?
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
> Well, I did '/etc/init.d/apache2 stop' with  no luck, then I just ps -A |
> grep apache and killed everything.
> After that a '/etc/init.d/apache2 start' just hangs with no error on apache
> logs.
>
> I check system messages and it turns out:*
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/apache2#  tail -f /var/log/messages
> *Nov  4 23:59:47 pinax kernel: 4gb seg fixup, process bash (pid 23795),
> cs:ip 73:0016b817
> Nov  4 23:59:48 pinax kernel: printk: 2 messages suppressed.
> Nov  4 23:59:48 pinax kernel: 4gb seg fixup, process sshd (pid 23767),
> cs:ip 73:0047cc6c
> Nov  4 23:59:54 pinax kernel: printk: 109 messages suppressed.
>
> Maybe it is directly related to Amazon machines:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/ec2ubuntu/browse_thread/thread/a145b228d83c0b71
>
> I followed the instructions here and apache started running again :)

http://ericmason.net/2008/09/amazon-ec2-and-4gb-seg-fixup/

I do not know what really happened, but it was triggered by mod_python and
my machine crashed horrible not even letting me restart it (via shutdown -r
now)

Thanks Graham anyway for your support.

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