Well, I tried moving the frameworks 3.0 directory away from the /
Library/Frameworks: it made no difference.
I also noticed that there is another installation of python2.6 on my
computer, evidently installed via Fink. Here's what I've got in the
Fink-loaded bin directory (/sw/bin):
ls -l /sw/bin/python*
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin        9 May  5  2009 /sw/bin/python ->
python2.6
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin       16 May  5  2009 /sw/bin/python-config
-> python2.6-config
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin  3423412 Nov 13  2008 /sw/bin/python2.4
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin  3913784 May  6  2009 /sw/bin/python2.5
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin     1417 May  6  2009 /sw/bin/python2.5-
config
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin     9816 May  5  2009 /sw/bin/python2.6
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin     1364 May  5  2009 /sw/bin/python2.6-
config

I tried moving them all to a holding directory (/sw/hold/bin): no
difference. Same errors in the Apache log file.
Maybe it (Apache/wsgi?) is getting confused between the pythons I've
loaded via Fink and the one(s) I loaded via MacPython, which is (I
think) just the 2.6 version. I think
I loaded 3.0 independently, but I don't remember how I installed that
one now.
There's also this, in /usr/lib:
 ls -ld /usr/lib/py*
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  75 Apr  4  1976 /usr/lib/python2.3 -
> ../../System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/
python2.3
Checking /System/Llibrary/Frameworks, etc. I get this:
ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions
total 8
drwxr-xr-x   10 root  wheel  340 Dec 11 18:42 2.3
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root  wheel    3 Apr  4  1976 Current -> 2.3

So this is a completely parallel and different Python framework. Seems
I've got a messed-up set of python distributions on my system. Perhaps
this is confusing Apache/wsgi. It's certainly confusing me!
I tried moving that /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework
directory out of the way, to /usr/local/apps/hold/. Stopped and
restarted apache2. No difference.
Do you have anything to suggest? A Python cleanup, perhaps?

Thanks...


On Jan 20, 11:11 pm, fhuddles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 20, 5:15 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > 2010/1/21 fhuddles <[email protected]>:
>
> > > On Jan 19, 8:07 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >> If you add in the hello world WSGI script file at global scope, ie.,
> > >> outside of application function:
>
> > >>   import sys
> > >>   import socket
>
> > >> does it still work?
> > > No (!). It gives me the same error as the Django app does.
>
> > >> Post the portions of Apache configuration you are using to setup WSGI
> > >> application?
>
> > > While we have been working on this, I managed to port this application
> > > to another machine, running NetBSD 5.0
> > > and Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ruby/1.2.6 Ruby/1.8.6(2008-03-03) mod_ssl/
> > > 2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8e DAV/2 mod_wsgi/2.5 Python/2.6.2 PHP/5.2.6
>
> > If you type:
>
> >   which python
>
> > what do you get and if 'python' at that location is a symlink, what
> > does the symlink point at?
>
> ls -l `which python`
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  admin  9 Nov 26 19:56 /Library/Frameworks/
> Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python -> python2.6
>
> > Can you try it with mod_ruby and PHP disabled to ensure there is no
> > conflict with those other Apache modules?
>
> OK, I disabled PHP5: the mod_ruby is not on the Mac: it's on the
> NetBSD computer, where WSGI/Django is working.
> Disabling PHP5 did not improve things.
>
> > Do you have DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable set in your normal
> > user environment?
>
> No:
> echo $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH
> tcsh: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH: Undefined variable.
>
>  Normally you wouldn't, but just want to make sure> you have no odd 
> environment variable settings to have Python command
> > line work, as those wouldn't be inherited by Apache/mod_wsgi.
>
> > Graham
>
> How about if I remove (or rename) the Python3.0 framework: /Library/
> Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.0
> I think it used to be the default before I installed 2.6.
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank H.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > So I made some modifications to the way I have the apps set up on my
> > > PPC Apple PowerBook, more or less duplicating the successful setup of
> > > the NetBSD machine.
> > > The results are the same as before, so I'll give you my current
> > > configuration, even though it's not exactly the same as when I first
> > > posted. There may be some unnecessary things, but here are the Apache
> > > settings:
>
> > > WSGIScriptAlias /helloworld /usr/local/apps/test//helloworld.wsgi
> > > WSGIScriptAlias /djvocab /usr/local/apps/djvocab/apache/django.wsgi
>
> > > <Directory /usr/local/apps/djvocab/apache>
> > >  Order deny,allow
> > >  Allow from all
> > > </Directory>
>
> > > <Directory /usr/local/apps/djvocab>
> > >  Order deny,allow
> > >  Allow from all
> > > </Directory>
>
> > >> If not doing so already, try setting:
>
> > >>   WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>
> > >> and try Django again.
>
> > > I'm not sure where I should set that.
>
> > >> For good measure, send output of:
>
> > >>   file .libs/mod_wsgi.so
> > > file /sw/lib/apache2/modules/mod_wsgi.so
> > > /sw/lib/apache2/modules/mod_wsgi.so: Mach-O bundle ppc
>
> > >> and indicate whether you are on a 64 bit PPC machine.
> > > You've got me here:  I'm not sure, but I think the G4 PPC is a 32-bit
> > > processor. WikiPedia says the G4 was 32-bit: the G5 was 64-bit.
> > > Here's the output of uname -a:
> > > Darwin iota.local 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10
> > > 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
> > > powerpc
>
> > >> Graham
>
> > >> 2010/1/19 fhuddles <[email protected]>:
>
> > >> >> Suggest you do the following.
>
> > >> >> 1. Use a simple WSGI hello world program and not your Django instance
> > >> >> to test. See:
>
> > >> >>  http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/QuickConfigurationGuide
>
> > >> >> 2. Change LogLevel directive in Apache configuration to be:
>
> > >> >>   LogLevel info
>
> > >> >> 3. Verify that all files/directories under:
>
> > >> >>   /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework
>
> > >> >> are in fact readable/searchable by others and that they don't have
> > >> >> restrictive permissions which would prevent the user that Apache runs
> > >> >> as from reading them.
>
> > >> >> Graham
>
> > >> > OK, I did that: the "helloworld.wsgi" program runs fine. django.wsgi
> > >> > still does not.
> > >> > Here's what the error log looks like for the two, with LogLevel info:
>
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) PHP/5.2.6
> > >> > mod_wsgi/3.1 Python/2.6.4 configured -- resuming normal operations
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] Server built: May  6 2009 00:48:53
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13077): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13073): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13074): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13075): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:10 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13076): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:12 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13075): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:12 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13074): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:12 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13077): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:12 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13076): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:12 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13073): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:25 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13103): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:25 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13075): Create
> > >> > interpreter 'localhost|/helloworld'.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:25 2010] [info] [client ::1] mod_wsgi (pid=13075,
> > >> > process='', application='localhost|/helloworld'): Loading WSGI script
> > >> > '/Users/fhuddles/work/temp/helloworld.wsgi'.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:25 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13103): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13075): Create
> > >> > interpreter 'localhost|/djvocab'.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] [client ::1] mod_wsgi (pid=13075,
> > >> > process='', application='localhost|/djvocab'): Loading WSGI script '/
> > >> > Users/fhuddles/work/djvocab/apache/django.wsgi'.
> > >> > Fatal Python error: Interpreter not initialized (version mismatch?)
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [notice] child pid 13075 exit signal Abort
> > >> > trap (6)
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13124): Initializing
> > >> > Python.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13074): Create
> > >> > interpreter 'localhost|/djvocab'.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] [client ::1] mod_wsgi (pid=13074,
> > >> > process='', application='localhost|/djvocab'): Loading WSGI script '/
> > >> > Users/fhuddles/work/djvocab/apache/django.wsgi'.
> > >> > Fatal Python error: Interpreter not initialized (version mismatch?)
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:37 2010] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=13124): Attach
> > >> > interpreter ''.
> > >> > [Tue Jan 19 00:09:38 2010] [notice] child pid 13074 exit signal Abort
> > >> > trap (6)
>
> > >> > I looked at the permissions in the Framework directories:
> > >> > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework: mostly rwxr-xr-x, not less
> > >> > restrictive
> > >> > Versions: same
> > >> > 2.6: same
> > >> > bin: same
> > >> > lib: some  rw-rw-r--, for example.
> > >> > ls -l Resources
> > >> > total 8
> > >> > drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin  102 Nov 26 19:56 English.lproj
> > >> > -rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin  916 Oct 27 13:50 Info.plist
> > >> > drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin  102 Nov 26 19:57 Python.app
> > >> > any others I should look at: there are a lot, but I figure that gets
> > >> > the main ones.
> > >> > Besides, since the helloworld app ran, I figure it's not in the
> > >> > permissions there.
> > >> > My app directory (/Users/fhuddles/work/djvocab) has mostly rw-r--r--.
>
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