On 21 January 2011 12:01, Aljoša Mohorović <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Graham Dumpleton
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> If you look, I'd suggest that system monitoring tools which can
>> capture that information are already available. I don't see a need for
>> this to specifically be embedded within mod_wsgi.
>> [ ... ]
>
> i've used or still use nagios, zenoss, munin (and a bunch of other
> similar tools) that can monitor apache logs and get some decent data
> but most that i usually get out is just enough to figure out where the
> problem is, usually domain or process id(s).
> i also have logs on wsgi application side but it always feels like
> there is more data between apache monitoring tools and wsgi app logs
> that could be useful.
> i was hoping that some mod_wsgi specific data could be extracted,
> although i'm not sure if it can be useful.

Have a look at:

  http://www.newrelic.com/

It doesn't support Python as yet, but ......... ;-)

>> What is your justification for wanting to do this? All I can see is
>> that you are trying to fit more distinct WSGI applications on a system
>> than the hardware can perhaps accommodate. :-)
>
> let's say i have several machines and i want to move, shutdown and
> start new wsgi applications between machines.
> instead of shutting down wsgi application i would like to be able to
> push application to swap/disk but i'm not talking about OS doing that
> when wsgi app is not used.
> if i host a large number of wsgi apps i would like to preload all and
> freeze on disk to be able to restore them in a fast way.

The only way I can think for you being able to do that is use ability
of virtual machines such as VMWare to save and then restore a running
image on another system. This would be hard of not impossible to do at
user application level and certainly not for something running
embedded in Apache. You would really have to save the whole machine
state and transport that.

Graham

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