Further update.

I set stack-size in WSGIDaemonProcess *and* stack.size in wsgi.py

It appears that everything has stabilized.

On Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:47:43 AM UTC-5, Steve M wrote:
>
> Update.
>
> apt-cache search is no longer throwing a segmentation fault.
>
> I would say that link you provided regarding ThreadStackSize was helpful 
> in helping me move forward.
>
> It appears that the problem was stemming from thread stack and how my 
> memory my VPS sees fit to allow access to.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:34:26 AM UTC-5, Steve M wrote:
>>
>> This is ubunut 10.04, an ancient version that the VPS company seems to be 
>> intent on keeping me on.
>>
>> Funny thing, I set:
>> ThreadStackSize 524288
>>
>> In mpm_worker_module and rebooted the VPS.
>>
>> Apache comes up on its own and acts normally, I dont have to restart 
>> apache to make mod_wsgi and apache behave now.
>>
>> When I run:
>> sudo -u www-data ulimit -a
>> I get:
>> sudo: ulimit: command not found.
>>
>> There is no apache/Apache user.
>>
>> When I run it as su, I get:
>> core file size          (blocks, -c) 0
>> data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
>> scheduling priority             (-e) 20
>> file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
>> pending signals                 (-i) 16382
>> max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
>> max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
>> open files                      (-n) 1024
>> pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8
>> POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200
>> real-time priority              (-r) 0
>> stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
>> cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
>> max user processes              (-u) unlimited
>> virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited
>> file locks                      (-x) unlimited
>>
>>
>> When I run it as a regular user, I get:
>> core file size          (blocks, -c) 0
>> data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
>> scheduling priority             (-e) 20
>> file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
>> pending signals                 (-i) 16382
>> max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
>> max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
>> open files                      (-n) 1024
>> pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8
>> POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200
>> real-time priority              (-r) 0
>> stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
>> cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
>> max user processes              (-u) unlimited
>> virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited
>> file locks                      (-x) unlimited
>>
>>
>> When I set processes=2 in WSGIDaemonProcesses and restart apache the 
>> threads come up and apache and mod_wsgi appear to be running fine.
>> But when I access a page I get an Internal Server Error.
>> Nonetheless now after having set ThreadStackSize the errors are 
>> consistent and it doesnt look like apache or mod_wsgi are having trouble
>> stabilizing the workers.
>>
>> The errors now are coming straight from python with the last line reading:
>> ImproperlyConfigured: Error importing module 
>> django.contrib.auth.middleware: "cannot import name signals"
>>
>> So at this stage it seems the errors are coming from Python.
>>
>> I still am getting that stupid segmentation fault from apt-cache search, 
>> but I'm not going to worry about that for now.
>> At this point I am more interested in seeing how to get this to work 
>> because I am probably going to move over to
>> a different VPS.  Therefore I want to have some knowledge base to take 
>> with me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you get for 'ulimit -a' when run from a normal login shell?
>>>
>>> What do you get if you run it as:
>>>
>>> sudo -u www-data ulimit -a
>>>
>>> Replace 'www-data' with the Apache user if for some reason it is 
>>> different on your system.
>>>
>>> What specific release of Ubuntu is this?
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> On 30/11/2014, at 9:09 PM, Steve M <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Checked the main error.log file and nothing relevant, just some:
>>> Zlib: Compressed output indicating I had accessed the page.
>>>
>>>
>>> But it is interesting that the topic of process limits comes up.
>>>
>>> When I reboot the VPS and apache tries to come up automatically I get 
>>> that:
>>> [alert] (11)Resource temporarily unavailable: mod_wsgi (pid=1287): 
>>> Couldn't create worker thread 9 in daemon process 'server_site_a'.
>>>
>>> As if processes = 2
>>> Until I restart apache and it starts to behave.
>>>
>>> But the apache process count never seems to go above 5 no matter how 
>>> many different settings I change.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:58:55 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30/11/2014, at 8:40 PM, Steve M <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Graham.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so I basically put:
>>>> import sys, os
>>>> os.system('ulimit -a')
>>>>
>>>> at the top of the wsgi.py file
>>>>
>>>> Then later in def application I put:
>>>> uval = os.system('ulimit -a')
>>>>
>>>> output = ' '
>>>> output += 'os.system = %s\n' % repr(uval)
>>>>
>>>> etc etc
>>>>
>>>> return [output]
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> The only relevant information I got was on the page which said:
>>>> os.system = -1
>>>>
>>>> But nothing relevant in error.log file near as I can tell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The os.system call only returns the exit status and not the output.
>>>>
>>>> The output would have been in the main Apache error log (not virtual 
>>>> host).
>>>>
>>>> That you were getting -1 though suggests that ulimit couldn't even be 
>>>> run because of hitting the process limit.
>>>>
>>>> Not that I know it to cause issues with starting processes, but some 
>>>> VPS systems have stupid memory allowances in place.
>>>>
>>>> Have a read of:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ApplicationIssues#Memory_Constrained_VPS_Systems
>>>>
>>>> The question though is whether after rebooting the system the issue 
>>>> occurred straight away? Did you find a large number of processes running?
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:12:05 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/11/2014, at 5:59 PM, Steve M <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hello, the problem I am having is that mod_wsgi fails if I set 
>>>>> process to anything greater than 1 in the WSGIDaemonProcess process=1 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > This is my current setup: 
>>>>> > [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) mod_wsgi/4.4.1 Python/2.7.6 
>>>>> configured -- resuming normal operations 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I compiled mod_wsgi from source. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > This seems to be the key error, but I am guessing: 
>>>>> > [alert] (11)Resource temporarily unavailable: mod_wsgi (pid=1287): 
>>>>> Couldn't create worker thread 9 in daemon process 'server_site_a'. 
>>>>> > Several of those pop up in the error log. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > WSGI settings in virtualhost: 
>>>>> >     WSGIDaemonProcess server_site_a processes=1 threads=10 
>>>>> display-name=%{GROUP} 
>>>>> >     WSGIProcessGroup server_site_a 
>>>>> >     WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL} 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > In main apache2.conf: 
>>>>> > WSGIRestrictedEmbedded On 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > And mpm_worker_module settings: 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > StartServers         10 
>>>>> > MaxClients           15 
>>>>> > MaxRequestsPerChild  256 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > MinSpareThreads      10 
>>>>> > MaxSpareThreads      20 
>>>>> > ThreadsPerChild      15 
>>>>> > ServerLimit          80 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > MaxMemFree        512 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > After watching Grahams videos on making apache suck less for python 
>>>>> I took some of his advice 
>>>>> > and decided to start fiddling with the apache settings. 
>>>>> > I first started off by getting apache to come up without errors 
>>>>> using mpm_worker. 
>>>>> > Once I had a baseline for apache I started to fiddle with mod_wsgi. 
>>>>> > So that is how I arrived at the settings. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Would appreciate any help. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Manual page entry for pthread_create() says: 
>>>>>
>>>>> ERRORS 
>>>>>      pthread_create() will fail if: 
>>>>>
>>>>>      [EAGAIN]           The system lacked the necessary resources to 
>>>>> create 
>>>>>                         another thread, or the system-imposed limit on 
>>>>> the 
>>>>>                         total number of threads in a process 
>>>>>                         [PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX] would be exceeded. 
>>>>>
>>>>> This would therefore tend to indicate it is an issue with the limits 
>>>>> on the user Apache ends up running as, or the system as a whole. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you start by putting back to a working configuration and then in a 
>>>>> WSGI hello world add: 
>>>>>
>>>>>     import os 
>>>>>     os.system('ulimit -a') 
>>>>>
>>>>> and hit the URL for the hello world script. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Then get from the log file what that produces. 
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, appreciate that you are at least trying to make changes as many 
>>>>> these days just give and stop using mod_wsgi. :-( 
>>>>>
>>>>> If we can sort out what the restriction is, I'll point out a few 
>>>>> things which still need fixing in what you quote. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham 
>>>>>
>>>>>
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