The next thing to do is set LogLevel to info and get the better logging from 
Apache error log for when the problems arise as already indicated.

Graham

> On 26 Oct 2015, at 9:42 pm, Paul Royik <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> ServerRoot "/home/simamura/webapps/django_math/apache2"
> 
> LoadModule alias_module modules/mod_alias.so
> LoadModule authz_core_module modules/mod_authz_core.so
> LoadModule dir_module        modules/mod_dir.so
> LoadModule env_module        modules/mod_env.so
> LoadModule log_config_module modules/mod_log_config.so
> LoadModule mime_module       modules/mod_mime.so
> LoadModule rewrite_module    modules/mod_rewrite.so
> LoadModule setenvif_module   modules/mod_setenvif.so
> LoadModule wsgi_module       modules/mod_wsgi.so
> LoadModule unixd_module      modules/mod_unixd.so
> 
> LogFormat "%{X-Forwarded-For}i %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" 
> \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined
> CustomLog /home/simamura/logs/user/access_django_math.log combined
> ErrorLog /home/simamura/logs/user/error_django_math.log
> 
> Listen 30821
> KeepAlive Off
> SetEnvIf X-Forwarded-SSL on HTTPS=1
> ServerLimit 5
> StartServers 1
> MaxRequestWorkers 60
> MinSpareThreads 1
> MaxSpareThreads 3
> ThreadsPerChild 12
> 
> WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
> WSGIDaemonProcess django_math processes=5 threads=12 
> python-path=/home/simamura/webapps/django_math:/home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite:/home/simamura/webapps/django_math/lib/python2.7
> WSGIProcessGroup django_math
> WSGIRestrictEmbedded On
> WSGILazyInitialization On
> WSGIScriptAlias / /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py
> 
> I changed a bit threadlimit as webfaction advised.
> What should I do next?
> 
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:13:58 AM UTC+2, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
> Can you show me what your mod_wsgi configuration in Apache configuration file 
> actually is? Ensure that the WSGIDaemonProcess directive is included.
> 
> Ensure that the LogLevel directive in Apache is set to ‘info’ and not ‘warn’ 
> and provide the actual log messages from the Apache error log from when it 
> occurs, including a dozen lines messages before and after so can see context. 
> Prior and followup messages can contain important information which you might 
> not think is helpful.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:27 pm, Paul Royik <distan...@ <>gmail.com 
>> <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>> 
>> The most long running request is 12 seconds.
>> I tried to set request-timeout, but it didn't help.
>> 
>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 1:25:13 AM UTC+3, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> No MaxRequestWorkers will not necessarily help. It doesn’t control how many 
>> processes/threads are available in the daemon processes used by mod_wsgi. 
>> Even changing the processes/threads for the daemon processes is only masking 
>> or delaying the occurrence of the issue. You need to work out the underlying 
>> cause.
>> 
>> I would suggest integrating the example code found in:
>> 
>>     
>> https://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Extracting_Python_Stack_Traces
>>  
>> <https://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Extracting_Python_Stack_Traces>
>> 
>> This will give you a way of being able to get Python stack traces out of the 
>> application as to what it is doing when it appears to get stuck.
>> 
>> If you have a new enough mod_wsgi version, you can also try setting on 
>> WSGIDaemonProcess the option:
>> 
>>     request-timeout=60
>> 
>> This will set a timeout on how long requests are allowed to run. If exceeded 
>> then the process will be forcibly restarted.
>> 
>> This will recover from processes which are locked up and then cause who 
>> Apache to run out of capacity.
>> 
>> Note that 60 means 60 seconds for a single request in case of single thread 
>> daemon process.
>> 
>> Things get more complicated for multiple process and the time value relates 
>> to average consumed time across all active requests. So technically a single 
>> request can run longer than the timeout.
>> 
>> As part of the process of restarting the process, mod_wsgi will attempt to 
>> dump Python stack traces as to where the code may have been running at that 
>> time, and so can work similar to the manual method mentioned in that link.
>> 
>> If you play with this option, set the timeout to be twice what your longest 
>> request would take. Although, if you have very long running requests, what 
>> to set it to may be a problem in itself.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> On 23 Oct 2015, at 4:24 am, Paul Royik <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> 
>> I set WSGIApplicationGroup, but it doesn't help.
>> 
>> I used sympy all year, but problems begin only now. Maybe when I upgraded to 
>> Apache 2.4
>> 
>> Anyway, in log file I got
>> [Thu Oct 22 17:08:55.697080 2015] [mpm_worker:error] [pid 658868:tid 
>> 140669018494784] AH00286: server reached MaxRequestWorkers setting, consider 
>> raising the MaxRequestWorkers setting
>> [Thu Oct 22 17:09:26.399723 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 667167:tid 
>> 140668926658304] [client 127.0.0.1:58424 <http://127.0.0.1:58424/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/definite-integral-calculator/?f=%282x%5E4%29%2F%28x%5E4-1%29&var=&a=2&b=3&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/definite-integral-calculator/?f=%282x%5E4%29%2F%28x%5E4-1%29&var=&a=2&b=3&steps=on>
>> 
>> Will it help if I raise MaxRequestWorkers? What is the readonable number?
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 2:13:07 PM UTC+3, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> No you cannot change the network keep alive timeout, or not readily and it 
>> isn’t something you should ever do. It is quite possibly nothing to do with 
>> that anyway.
>> 
>> As to WSGIApplicationGroup then it may help as I already outlined. Any 
>> reason you haven’t tried it as it is recommended practice to use it?
>> 
>> What exactly are you using simpy for anyway. Looking at the documentation 
>> for it it does various stuff with sub processes. Heavy or complicated use of 
>> sub processes from inside of the context of a web application, especially 
>> under Apache/mod_wsgi, is generally a bad idea. This is because it may not 
>> play well with Apache’s process model and so something like simpy may not 
>> work properly or could even interfere with the process management of Apache 
>> or mod_wsgi.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 4:41 pm, Paul Royik <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> 
>> Problem appeared again.
>> So, I will answer your questions.
>> I use third-party libraries sympy and sage. Didn't have any network issues.
>> Actually this happened when I sleep.
>> Exact error time is 2 hours 11 minutes (this value is always the same).
>> 
>> So, can I lower network keep alive timeout value?
>> 
>> If I set WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}, will this help?
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:39:31 PM UTC+3, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> The messages indicate that all the threads in the daemon process group were 
>> blocked.
>> 
>> Initially new requests will still get added to the socket listener queue for 
>> the daemon processes, which has a capacity for 100 queued requests by 
>> default. Because though the daemon process wasn’t actually accepted them and 
>> removing them from the queue, on the Apache child worker side where they 
>> were being proxied, they would timeout. That accounts for the message:
>> 
>>     Timeout when reading response headers from daemon process
>> 
>> When that 100 queue depth was eventually exceeded, no more requests could be 
>> queued up. This then resulted in attempts to connect to the daemon processes 
>> failing outright, which is what the error:
>> 
>>     Unable to connect to WSGI daemon process
>> 
>> is all about.
>> 
>> First up I would suggest you also ensure you are setting:
>> 
>>     WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>> 
>> This forces the application to run the in the main interpreter context of 
>> the daemon process groups.
>> 
>> This avoids problems with third party extension modules for Python that 
>> haven’t been implemented correctly so as to be able to be used in sub 
>> interpreter contexts. These can only work in the main interpreter context.
>> 
>> This is often a cause of thread deadlocks.
>> 
>> That said, that you say it lasts 2 hours and then disappears is interesting.
>> 
>> This is because 2 hours is the network keep alive timeout value.
>> 
>> So what may be happening is request threads are contacting some backend 
>> service and due to some network/router issue, the connection is being 
>> broken. In some circumstances, depending on what software is doing with the 
>> connection, such a condition may not be detected until the 2 hour network 
>> timeout occurs.
>> 
>> In light of that, what backend services does your application talk to and 
>> would that traffic traverse over any switching equipment. Have you been 
>> having any network issues.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 11:55 pm, Paul Royik <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham and everyone.
>> 
>> I have a site that runs heavy math calculations using external math library.
>> 
>> I already wrote about it nearly half a year ago. In that case there was 
>> timeout issue, but now I've fixed it.
>> 
>> 
>> But there is another issue.
>> Nearly the same time I got 503 error: Timeout when reading response headers 
>> from daemon process.
>> This lasts for approximately 2 hours and then 503 error disappears.
>> 
>> I use Django 1.8.4 with mod_wsgi 4.4.13.
>> 
>> What configurations should I use in httpd.conf to avoid this error.
>> How to queue requests?
>> What is the number of sumultaneous requests?
>> ....
>> 
>> 
>> What I want to do is avoid 503 error, limit number of simultaneous requests 
>> and queue other requests.
>> 
>> 
>> My log file:
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:47:09.445618 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829293606656] [client 127.0.0.1:45625 <http://127.0.0.1:45625/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:47:14.432179 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829390120704] [client 127.0.0.1:45632 <http://127.0.0.1:45632/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/trapezoidal-rule-calculator/?f=tan%28x%2F2%29+%2B+%281%2F%28x%5E2%2B4%29%29&a=0&b=2&n=8&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/trapezoidal-rule-calculator/?f=tan%28x%2F2%29+%2B+%281%2F%28x%5E2%2B4%29%29&a=0&b=2&n=8&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:47:20.201940 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829400610560] [client 127.0.0.1:45700 <http://127.0.0.1:45700/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-2/partial-fraction-decomposition-calculator/?numer=4x%5E&denom=x%5E2%28x%5E2%2B1%29&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-2/partial-fraction-decomposition-calculator/?numer=4x%5E&denom=x%5E2%28x%5E2%2B1%29&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:47:20.608201 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829283116800] [client 127.0.0.1:45704 <http://127.0.0.1:45704/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:48:08.984176 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829304096512] [client 127.0.0.1:45707 <http://127.0.0.1:45707/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/simpsons-rule-calculator/ 
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/simpsons-rule-calculator/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:48:09.505969 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829293606656] [client 127.0.0.1:45730 <http://127.0.0.1:45730/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-1/synthetic-division-calculator/?numer=2x%5E3-7x%5E2%2B12x-9&denom=2x-3&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-1/synthetic-division-calculator/?numer=2x%5E3-7x%5E2%2B12x-9&denom=2x-3&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:48:14.492629 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829390120704] [client 127.0.0.1:45731 <http://127.0.0.1:45731/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:48:20.262302 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829400610560] [client 127.0.0.1:45732 <http://127.0.0.1:45732/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-1/synthetic-division-calculator/?numer=2x%5E3-7x%5E2%2B12x-9&denom=2x-3&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-1/synthetic-division-calculator/?numer=2x%5E3-7x%5E2%2B12x-9&denom=2x-3&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:48:20.668421 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829283116800] [client 127.0.0.1:45737 <http://127.0.0.1:45737/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:49:09.044532 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829304096512] [client 127.0.0.1:45744 <http://127.0.0.1:45744/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:49:09.566430 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829293606656] [client 127.0.0.1:45789 <http://127.0.0.1:45789/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/integral-calculator/?f=sin%5E5+%28x%29&var=&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/integral-calculator/?f=sin%5E5+%28x%29&var=&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:49:14.552970 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829390120704] [client 127.0.0.1:45795 <http://127.0.0.1:45795/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:49:20.322179 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829400610560] [client 127.0.0.1:45799 <http://127.0.0.1:45799/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/simpsons-rule-calculator/ 
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/simpsons-rule-calculator/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:49:20.728784 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829283116800] [client 127.0.0.1:45803 <http://127.0.0.1:45803/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-2/partial-fraction-decomposition-calculator/?numer=4x%5E&denom=x%5E2%28x%5E2%2B1%29&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/algebra-2/partial-fraction-decomposition-calculator/?numer=4x%5E&denom=x%5E2%28x%5E2%2B1%29&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:50:09.104426 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829304096512] [client 127.0.0.1:45816 <http://127.0.0.1:45816/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/integral-calculator/?f=ln+x+&var=x&steps=on
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/integral-calculator/?f=ln+x+&var=x&steps=on>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:50:09.626783 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829293606656] [client 127.0.0.1:45819 <http://127.0.0.1:45819/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/definite-integral-calculator/?f=%28y%5E%281%2F2%29%2F2%29%2B%281%2F%282*y%5E%281%2F2%29%29%29&var=&a=3&b=9
>>  
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/definite-integral-calculator/?f=%28y%5E%281%2F2%29%2F2%29%2B%281%2F%282*y%5E%281%2F2%29%29%29&var=&a=3&b=9>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:50:14.613330 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829390120704] [client 127.0.0.1:45820 <http://127.0.0.1:45820/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/trapezoidal-rule-calculator/ 
>> <http://www.emathhelp.net/calculators/calculus-2/trapezoidal-rule-calculator/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:50:20.382640 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829400610560] [client 127.0.0.1:45832 <http://127.0.0.1:45832/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:50:20.789229 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829283116800] [client 127.0.0.1:45846 <http://127.0.0.1:45846/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:51:09.164863 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829304096512] [client 127.0.0.1:45848 <http://127.0.0.1:45848/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:51:09.634602 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829293606656] [client 127.0.0.1:45879 <http://127.0.0.1:45879/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFAQFjAJahUKEwje1pz16rzIAhXKGI4KHVrPAzA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emathhelp.net%2Fnotes%2Fcalculus-1%2Fdrawing-graphs-of-functions%2Fsteps-for-sketching-graph-of-function%2F&usg=AFQjCNGAABCyCB7rhd4yAI83Dd0NDLTrPw
>>  
>> <http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFAQFjAJahUKEwje1pz16rzIAhXKGI4KHVrPAzA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emathhelp.net%2Fnotes%2Fcalculus-1%2Fdrawing-graphs-of-functions%2Fsteps-for-sketching-graph-of-function%2F&usg=AFQjCNGAABCyCB7rhd4yAI83Dd0NDLTrPw>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:51:14.639873 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829390120704] [client 127.0.0.1:45914 <http://127.0.0.1:45914/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.co.uk/ <https://www.google.co.uk/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:51:20.443005 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829400610560] [client 127.0.0.1:45918 <http://127.0.0.1:45918/>] Timeout 
>> when reading response headers from daemon process 'django_math': 
>> /home/simamura/webapps/django_math/mathsite/mathsite/wsgi.py, referer: 
>> https://www.google.com/ <https://www.google.com/>
>> [Mon Oct 12 11:51:20.849576 2015] [wsgi:error] [pid 10210:tid 
>> 139829283116800] [client 
>> ...
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