Gotcha.  I fixed those to be site.1me and site2.me only in ServerName 
fields.  Also after making a new vhost file I run 

sudo a2ensite site2.

It appears the configuration is working, though I have a new problem.  
After checking apache error log for 500 on site2.me, it says exception, 
cant import pygal etc.  So I think, thats easy fix, I turn on the venv, go 
pip3 install pygal.  Apparently pip3 cant install stuff now in the venv, or 
requirements.txt   Ill post error below, sorry for its length.  


(venv) kien1@k1pvm:/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp$ pip3 install -r 
requirements.txt 
Collecting blinker==1.4 (from -r requirements.txt (line 1))
Exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connection.py",
 
line 137, in _new_conn
    (self.host, self.port), self.timeout, **extra_kw)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/util/connection.py",
 
line 67, in create_connection
    for res in socket.getaddrinfo(host, port, 0, socket.SOCK_STREAM):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/socket.py", line 732, in getaddrinfo
    for res in _socket.getaddrinfo(host, port, family, type, proto, flags):
socket.gaierror: [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connectionpool.py",
 
line 560, in urlopen
    body=body, headers=headers)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connectionpool.py",
 
line 346, in _make_request
    self._validate_conn(conn)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connectionpool.py",
 
line 787, in _validate_conn
    conn.connect()
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connection.py",
 
line 217, in connect
    conn = self._new_conn()
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connection.py",
 
line 146, in _new_conn
    self, "Failed to establish a new connection: %s" % e)
requests.packages.urllib3.exceptions.NewConnectionError: 
<requests.packages.urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 
0x7f65a396e470>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -3] Temporary 
failure in name resolution

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py",
 
line 209, in main
    status = self.run(options, args)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/commands/install.py",
 
line 328, in run
    wb.build(autobuilding=True)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/wheel.py",
 
line 748, in build
    self.requirement_set.prepare_files(self.finder)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/req/req_set.py",
 
line 360, in prepare_files
    ignore_dependencies=self.ignore_dependencies))
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/req/req_set.py",
 
line 512, in _prepare_file
    finder, self.upgrade, require_hashes)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/req/req_install.py",
 
line 273, in populate_link
    self.link = finder.find_requirement(self, upgrade)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/index.py",
 
line 442, in find_requirement
    all_candidates = self.find_all_candidates(req.name)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/index.py",
 
line 400, in find_all_candidates
    for page in self._get_pages(url_locations, project_name):
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/index.py",
 
line 545, in _get_pages
    page = self._get_page(location)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/index.py",
 
line 648, in _get_page
    return HTMLPage.get_page(link, session=self.session)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/index.py",
 
line 757, in get_page
    "Cache-Control": "max-age=600",
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/requests-2.9.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/requests/sessions.py",
 
line 480, in get
    return self.request('GET', url, **kwargs)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pip/download.py",
 
line 378, in request
    return super(PipSession, self).request(method, url, *args, **kwargs)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/requests-2.9.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/requests/sessions.py",
 
line 468, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/requests-2.9.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/requests/sessions.py",
 
line 576, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/CacheControl-0.11.5-py2.py3-none-any.whl/cachecontrol/adapter.py",
 
line 46, in send
    resp = super(CacheControlAdapter, self).send(request, **kw)
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/requests-2.9.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/requests/adapters.py",
 
line 376, in send
    timeout=timeout
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/connectionpool.py",
 
line 610, in urlopen
    _stacktrace=sys.exc_info()[2])
  File 
"/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv/share/python-wheels/urllib3-1.13.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl/urllib3/util/retry.py",
 
line 228, in increment
    total -= 1
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'Retry' and 'int'


On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 5:09:54 AM UTC-7, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>
> I meant to use:
>
> http://site1.me
> http://site2.me
>
> in the browser when making the request, not in ServerName. ServerName 
> should be just the hostname.
>
> Are their symlinks in the sites-enabled directory to the files in the 
> sites-available directory?
>
> Just because they are in sites-available doesn’t mean Apache will read 
> them. On your Linux distro the sites have to be enabled, using s2enable, 
> which results in a symlink being put in sites-enabled to same site in 
> sites-available.
>
> Graham
>
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:02 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Heres
>
> /etc/apache2/sites-available$ ls
> 000-default.conf  default-ssl.conf  site1.conf  site2.conf
>
>
> config files:
>
> etchost:
>
> ##
> # Host Database
> #
> # localhost is used to configure the loopback interface
> # when the system is booting.  Do not change this entry.
> ##
> 127.0.0.1       localhost
> 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost
> ::1             localhost
>
>
> 192.168.1.10    site1.me        http://site1.me
> 192.168.1.10    site2.me        http://site2.me
>
>
>
> <VirtualHost *:80>
>                 ServerName http://site1.me
>                 ServerAdmin [email protected] <javascript:>
>
>                 WSGIDaemonProcess site1 
> python-home=/var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv
>                 WSGIProcessGroup site1
>                 WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>                 WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/flaskapp.wsgi
>                 <Directory /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/>
>                         Order allow,deny
>                         Allow from all
>                 </Directory>
>                 Alias /static /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static
>                 <Directory /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static/>
>                         Order allow,deny
>                         Allow from all
>                 </Directory>
>                 ErrorLog /var/www/site1/logs/error.log
>                 LogLevel warn
>                 CustomLog /var/www/site1/logs/access.log combined
> </VirtualHost>
>
>
> <VirtualHost *:80>
>                 ServerName http://site2.me
>                 ServerAdmin [email protected] <javascript:>
>
>                 WSGIDaemonProcess site2 
> python-home=/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv
>                 WSGIProcessGroup site2
>                 WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>                 WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/flaskapp.wsgi
>                 <Directory /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/>
>                         Order allow,deny
>                         Allow from all
>                 </Directory>
>                 Alias /static /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static
>                 <Directory /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static/>
>                         Order allow,deny
>                         Allow from all
>                 </Directory>
>                 ErrorLog /var/www/site2/logs/error.log
>                 LogLevel warn
>                 CustomLog /var/www/site2/logs/access.log combined
> </VirtualHost>
>
>
> cat /etc/apache2/mods-available/wsgi.load
>
> LoadModule wsgi_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/
> mod_wsgi-py35.cpython-35m-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
> WSGIRestrictEmbedded On
>
> Im now getting 500 error at site2.me.  site1 still works.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 4:40:07 AM UTC-7, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>
>> If you have it with ServerName as I suggest, and there ate /etc/hosts 
>> entries mapping the host names to the local system IP, then using:
>>
>> http://site1.me
>> http://site2.me
>>
>> should result in them going to the correct VirtualHost and being handled 
>> by respective applications.
>>
>> If they aren’t it would suggest the VirtualHost’s aren’t being read by 
>> Apache.
>>
>> What file are they in?
>>
>> If you put a syntax error in the VirtualHost definitions, does Apache 
>> fail to start.
>>
>> Just add a line with:
>>
>>    xxxx
>>
>> and it should fail.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 9:33 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm I had the DaemonProcess correct just not in the above post, and I 
>> changed the ServerName to site1.me and site2.me, the etc/hosts file has 
>> them both at 192.168.1.10.  Not sure if/how to resolve the DNS figured that 
>> was automatic.  My network settings say using DHCP, and I use openDNS.  
>> Would I have to add other DNS entries for each vhost?
>>
>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 4:11:24 AM UTC-7, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 9:07 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah my bad:
>>>
>>> <VirtualHost *:80>
>>>                 ServerName 192.168.1.10
>>>                 ServerAlias site1.me
>>>
>>>
>>> Only use:
>>>
>>> ServerName site1.me
>>>
>>> Don’t use ServerAlias and don’t use the IP.
>>>
>>>                 ServerAdmin ad...@mywebsite. <http://mywebsite.com/>com 
>>> <http://mywebsite.com/>
>>>
>>>                 WSGIDaemonProcess site1 
>>> python-home=/var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv
>>>                 WSGIProcessGroup site1
>>>                 WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>>>                 WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/flaskapp.wsgi
>>>                 <Directory /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/>
>>>                         Order allow,deny
>>>                         Allow from all
>>>                 </Directory>
>>>                 Alias /static /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static
>>>                 <Directory /var/www/site1/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static/>
>>>                         Order allow,deny
>>>                         Allow from all
>>>                 </Directory>
>>>                 ErrorLog /var/www/site1/logs/error.log
>>>                 LogLevel warn
>>>                 CustomLog /var/www/site1/logs/access.log combined
>>> </VirtualHost>
>>>
>>> <VirtualHost *:80>
>>>                 ServerName 192.168.1.10
>>>                 ServerAlias site2.me
>>>
>>>
>>> ServerName site2.me
>>>
>>>                 ServerAdmin ad...@mywebsite. <http://mywebsite.com/>com 
>>> <http://mywebsite.com/>
>>>
>>>                 WSGIDaemonProcess site1 
>>> python-home=/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv
>>>
>>>
>>> This should be:
>>>
>>>      WSGIDaemonProcess site2 
>>> python-home=/var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/venv
>>>
>>> The server shouldn’t even have started with what you had as site1 name 
>>> already used and should have complained about duplicate. Are you sure both 
>>> were being read.
>>>
>>> Also, do you actually have resolvable DNS for site1.me and site2.me, or 
>>> entries for them in /etc/hosts. Name based virtual hosts will not work 
>>> without.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>                 WSGIProcessGroup site2
>>>                 WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>>>                 WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/flaskapp.wsgi
>>>                 <Directory /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/>
>>>                         Order allow,deny
>>>                         Allow from all
>>>                 </Directory>
>>>                 Alias /static /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static
>>>                 <Directory /var/www/site2/FlaskApp/FlaskApp/static/>
>>>                         Order allow,deny
>>>                         Allow from all
>>>                 </Directory>
>>>                 ErrorLog /var/www/site2/logs/error.log
>>>                 LogLevel warn
>>>                 CustomLog /var/www/site2/logs/access.log combined
>>> </VirtualHost>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 2:28:01 AM UTC-7, Graham Dumpleton 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you post the two VirtualHost configurations?
>>>>
>>>> The IP address should not be mentioned in the VirtualHost definition 
>>>> anywhere normally. So shouldn’t have IP in ServerName either.
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 5:46 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so I followed the steps above, and lo and behold the site1.me worked!  
>>>> But my 2nd test site at site2.me did not.  (What I did was duplicate 
>>>> my site1 project as site2, changed all the conf files and gave it a new 
>>>> database to reflect the change.  I think theres some conflict as both 
>>>> vhost 
>>>> configs are trying to share the same local IP.  I noticed in the vhost 
>>>> file 
>>>> the ServerName has an incorrect IP address (192.168.1.7) for the ubuntu 
>>>> server but it doesnt affect anything since the ServerAlias site1.me points 
>>>> to the correct server IP on my mac's /etc/hosts file:  192.168.1.11   
>>>> site1.me.)  I got this info upon visiting that domain : 
>>>>
>>>> (0)REMOTE_ADDR = 206.127.117.221
>>>> REMOTE_PORT = 11233
>>>> HTTP_USER_AGENT = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; 
>>>> rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0
>>>> HTTP_ACCEPT = 
>>>> text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
>>>> HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET = 
>>>> HTTP_CONNECTION = keep-alive
>>>> HTTP_HOST = site2.me
>>>> HTTP_REFERER = 
>>>> REQUEST_METHOD = GET
>>>> GATEWAY_INTERFACE = CGI/1.1
>>>> PATH_TRANSLATED = 
>>>> SERVER_NAME = site2.me
>>>> SERVER_ADDR = 192.168.5.5
>>>> 2016-09-23 10:29:04
>>>>
>>>> After which I tested copying the same line in /etc/hosts on mac, 
>>>> 192.168.1.11 site1.me
>>>> 192.168.1.11 site2.me
>>>> and when visiting site2.me in browser I actually got the Apache2 
>>>> Ubuntu Default - It Works! page, so Im close but theres some conflict with 
>>>> an IP or hostname it seems.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 7:06:05 PM UTC-7, Graham Dumpleton 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If the intention is still to try and do it yourself with one Apache 
>>>>> instance, the description given before is still valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> So not sure I have anything more to add at this point. Personally I am 
>>>>> a fan of PaaS, but cost can be a concern with those.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can perhaps go more into it when you start progressing more with the 
>>>>> setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham 
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Sep 2016, at 3:57 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Graham, been awhile.  Glad I could help ya out with that amzn 
>>>>> gift.  Got busy doing other crap and on road trips this summer so took a 
>>>>> break from programming.  Also hit a wall with flask where it became 
>>>>> difficult to build a dynamic user dashboard system so got discouraged.  I 
>>>>> like flask but Im finding its extensibility and total freedom to craft 
>>>>> your 
>>>>> own web app to be a double edged sword.  I may use it for simple static 
>>>>> sites but for more complexity I may have to abandon it because it feels 
>>>>> like the things I want to do become too convoluted and require skill on 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> level of a web/software engineer.  Not sure why I would reinvent the 
>>>>> proverbial 'wheel' when at my level it will be inferior and may be 
>>>>> bottlenecked or have security breaches Im unaware of when someone at a 
>>>>> much 
>>>>> higher level has built something much better.  Not only that, to manually 
>>>>> edit every sql query, every init.py change, every html change is going to 
>>>>> be a logistical nightmare if Im managing like 20 websites.  So Im 
>>>>> knocking 
>>>>> out a good django series and I like how its structured, more split up, 
>>>>> easier to manage via admin panel, apps can be reused etc.  I hope its 
>>>>> going 
>>>>> to solve some of these logistical and efficiency issues as far as 
>>>>> building 
>>>>> and managing websites.  My short term goal is to build sites like a blog 
>>>>> with commenting system, a forum, dynamic user dashboard, and later on a 
>>>>> basic ecommerce store, and to be able to manage these sites easier via 
>>>>> django admin (or partially hand the reins to the site owner for basic 
>>>>> content posting/editing).   That way my time is freed up from doing 
>>>>> menial 
>>>>> edits and whatnot for client's sites.  I hope django can be my answer to 
>>>>> these dilemmas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways I was curious if you have experience / advice in this area, 
>>>>> and currently Im revisiting how to properly set up numerous projects each 
>>>>> with their own separate virtual environment, as we previously discussed 
>>>>> below.  I plan on using this local ubuntu VM as my local dev server, 
>>>>> hosting all my projects (5-10 short term, 20-50+ eventually) and then 
>>>>> uploading them to digital ocean for production.  All I need at the moment 
>>>>> is to set up a few projects and make sure their virtualenvs are separate 
>>>>> but sharing the same IP.  Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **********
>>>>> On 12 May 2016, at 6:32 PM, Jaqen Nki <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>>> So I take it for a new project, I repeat the process, new vhost and 
>>>>> .wsgi file, and create a wsgi.load file for each site? 
>>>>>
>>>>> The wsgi.load file should only have in it the LoadModule, 
>>>>> WSGIPythonHome and WSGIRestrictEmbedded directives. They applied to the 
>>>>> server as a whole and not specific VirtualHosts. 
>>>>>
>>>>> When you talk about adding more VirtualHost’s, that is when you will 
>>>>> need to be a bit careful with respect to virtual environments. 
>>>>>
>>>>> First up, a separate VirtualHost is used for each distinct site 
>>>>> hostname. Don’t use separate VirtualHost’s if only trying to mount 
>>>>> different applications at different sub URLs of the same site. Seen 
>>>>> people 
>>>>> try and use multiple VirtualHost’s for same site hostname too many times. 
>>>>> Is wrong way. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you are going to have multiple VirtualHost’s would suggest 
>>>>> doing things a little differently. 
>>>>>
>>>>> First up, the wsgi.load file would only have LoadModule and 
>>>>> WSGIRestrictEmbedded directives in it. Not WSGIPythonHome. 
>>>>>
>>>>> In that file the WSGIPythonHome was acting as a fallback for both 
>>>>> embedded mode and daemon mode. With WSGIRestrictEmbedded set to On, don’t 
>>>>> need the fallback. Instead, we want to set python-home for each daemon 
>>>>> process group setup using WSGIDaemonProcess directive. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus: 
>>>>>
>>>>> # wsgi.load 
>>>>>
>>>>> LoadModule … 
>>>>> WSGIRestrictEmbedded On 
>>>>>
>>>>> # site1.conf 
>>>>>
>>>>> <VirtualHost *:80> 
>>>>> ServerName site1.host.name 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIDaemonProcess site1 python-home=/some/path/site1/
>>>>> venv 
>>>>> WSGIProcessGroup site1 
>>>>> WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL} 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIScriptAlias / /some/path/site1/app.wsgi 
>>>>>
>>>>> ... 
>>>>> </VirtualHost> 
>>>>>
>>>>> # site2.conf 
>>>>>
>>>>> <VirtualHost *:80> 
>>>>> ServerName site2.host.name 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIDaemonProcess site2 python-home=/some/path/site2/venv 
>>>>> WSGIProcessGroup site2 
>>>>> WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL} 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIScriptAlias / /some/path/site1/app.wsgi 
>>>>>
>>>>> ... 
>>>>> </VirtualHost> 
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do need to host multiple applications under same VirtualHost at 
>>>>> different sub URLs, you would use something like: 
>>>>>
>>>>> # site3.conf 
>>>>>
>>>>> <VirtualHost *:80> 
>>>>> ServerName site3.host.name 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIDaemonProcess site3_main python-home=/some/path/site3_main/venv 
>>>>> WSGIDaemonProcess site3_suburl python-home=/some/path/site3_suburl/venv
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIProcessGroup site3 
>>>>> WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL} 
>>>>>
>>>>> WSGIScriptAlias /suburl /some/path/site3_suburl/app.wsgi 
>>>>> process-group=site3_suburl 
>>>>> WSGIScriptAlias / /some/path/site3_main/app.wsgi 
>>>>>
>>>>> ... 
>>>>> </VirtualHost>
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