Graham, I Really appreciate the response. I will work with my team to test 
these changes and get back to you!

Thanks,
Lalith

On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 12:49:40 AM UTC-6 Graham Dumpleton wrote:

> Will possible look and comment more later, but the very first thing you 
> want to do is change:
>
>     WSGIProcessGroup  yyy.bbb.com    
>     WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/html/xxx/yyy/wsgi.py   
>
> to:
>
>     WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/html/xxx/yyy/wsgi.py process-group=
> yyy.bbb.com application-group=%{GLOBAL}
>
> The most important bit is setting the application group to %{GLOBAL}. This 
> avoids problems with some third party modules which aren't designed to work 
> in Python sub interpreters and which can cause deadlocks with threads 
> causing them to hang and slowly you run out of capacity.
>
> Other comments are you should not need:
>
>     SetHandler wsgi-script
>
> and it is recommend to set outside of the VirtualHost:
>
>     WSGIRestrictEmbedded On
>
> This last one disables Python in main Apache child worker processes, 
> saving on memory and startup times for those. Because you are using daemon 
> mode you don't need embedded mode enabled.
>
> Using maximum-requests is actually usually not a good idea because when 
> site under load then it causes process to restart too frequently, making 
> things worse.
>
> You should instead look at restart-interval option for periodic restarts.
>
> Also perhaps want to look at request-timeout option to force process 
> restarts when requests run too long and/or hang.
>
> What is the average response time, plus longest response times you expect?
>
> If you haven't watch the talk:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Q3l11fjU0
>
> Graham
>
> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:41 pm, Lalith Maddali <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the prompt reply Graham.
>
> Box capacity: 4 CPU, 16 GB RAM, 14 GB Swap space
>
> Python version: 2.7
> Django version: 1.8.4 final
> Mod_wsgi version: 4.7.1
>
> Here is Apache configuration. I have masked the internal names with xxx, 
> yyy, bbb but it should be consistent across the whole file. 
>
> WSGISocketPrefix /var/run/
>
> WSGIPassAuthorization On
>
> <Directory "/var/www/html/xxx/yyy">    
>
>     #Options FollowSymLinks    
>
>     #AllowOverride All    
>
>     Options Indexes FollowSymLinks    
>
>     AllowOverride All
>
> </Directory>
>
> <VirtualHost *:443>    
>
>     ServerName yyy.bbb.com    
>
>     ServerAlias yyy.staging.bbb.com     
>
>     DocumentRoot "/var/www/html/xxx/yyy"    
>
>     WSGIDaemonProcess yyy.bbb.com \
>
>         user=apache group=apache \
>
>         processes=6 threads=20 \
>
>         display-name='%{GROUP}' \
>
>         maximum-requests=1800 graceful-timeout=720 socket-timeout=300 \
>
>         python-path=/var/www/html/xxx/:/var/www/html/xxx/ccc    
>
>     WSGIProcessGroup  yyy.bbb.com    
>
>     WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/html/xxx/yyy/wsgi.py    
>
>     SetHandler wsgi-script    SSLEngine on    
>
> </VirtualHost>
>
> Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide. Thank you for 
> your help!
>
> Thanks,
> Lalith
>
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 8:50:55 PM UTC-6 Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>
>> Can you supply the mod_wsgi configuration you are using in Apache 
>> configuration file.
>>
>> I would need to see mod_wsgi directives such as WSGIDaemonProcess, 
>> WSGIProcessGroup, WSGIApplicationGroup, WSGIScriptAlias and how they are 
>> used in the context of Apache configuration.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 14 Dec 2021, at 1:47 pm, Lalith Maddali <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>       Occassionally users reported that UI was very slow. When we dig 
>> deeper we found that  some requests never got a response back, rather after 
>> loadbalancer timed out it returned 504 status code.
>>
>> Most API calls are high in request size (due to users saving a lot of 
>> text data back to server). I saw some blogs saying that large request sizes 
>> can bloat the memory consumed by django process. We were definitely hitting 
>> peak memory due to this. 
>>
>> We introduced maximum-request setting to kill process once it reaches 
>> this limit. It was fine until we hit this weird issue of timeouts for 
>> seemingly simple API calls.
>>
>> Digging further, we found that in Apache logs there are 403 status codes, 
>> it happens right during the time Apache restarts the processes as 
>> maximum-request setting is reached. We could see some logs of django 
>> process start logs around the same time.
>>
>> Question is why do we have 403? In our other production servers this was 
>> never an issue, only on this one application, Apache keeps the requests 
>> dangling and later 403 and not sending to the active processes. This is 
>> requiring us to periodically do apache graceful restarts. This is not 
>> elegant solution, but any insight into what to improve would be great.
>>
>> We also have New Relic installed as middleware. We found that a process 
>> restart takes more than 20 seconds. Is this the root cause? How do we deal 
>> with improving process restart?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lalith
>>
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