As I already said, you can't build Apache httpd from source code yourself on 
macOS. The APR library it uses will not build on macOS and they haven't made a 
release for so many years it has never been fixed. HomeBrew and MacPorts would 
patch it to get it to compile and I am not clear on what the patch is.

Overall I would suggest ditching MacPorts. It has always been inferior to 
HomeBrew and has always caused lots of problems for mod_wsgi because their 
Python distro is often broken and can't build embedded applications properly. 
Seems their Apache httpd is also inferior as well.

Graham

> On 8 Feb 2023, at 5:42 pm, Gnarlodious <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There isn't any worker or event module included with the MacPorts Apache, and 
> prefork is compiled in. Meanwhile mod_wsgi is working well enough as it is, 
> maybe sometime later I will try to build a custom Apache.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- Gnarlie
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-7 Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> It may have default prefork configured, but you should be able to 
>> dynamically override that through configuration to either worker or event 
>> MPM. The only time you wouldn't is if they static compiled all Apache 
>> modules in, which is not usually done and would be pretty stupid on their 
>> part if they are.
>> 
>> Look for LoadModule mpm_prefork_module line and see if alternatives are 
>> commented out for other MPMs and just change which is used.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Feb 2023, at 8:48 am, Gnarlodious <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> So I installed the MacPorts mod_wsgi which was pretty simple and works 
>>> well. Unfortunately the MacPorts Apache has the default compiled-in MPM of 
>>> "prefork", which causes my WSGI sessions to expire after about 10 seconds. 
>>> Looks like I will need to download the Apache installer and build it with 
>>> the "worker" MPM to get mod_wsgi to behave like I want.
>>> 
>>> -- Gnarlie
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:39:34 AM UTC-7 Gnarlodious wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, it looks like I installed Macports Apache, since Homebrew has given 
>>>> me such trouble in the past. They also have mod_wsgi: 
>>>> https://ports.macports.org/port/mod_wsgi/details/ but it says unverified 
>>>> for ARM64 processor. Will give it a try and report back if it works
>>>> 
>>>> -- Gnarlie
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 12:09:10 AM UTC-7 Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>>> You can't use configure/make/make install (CMMI) method to install on 
>>>>> macOS if is system Apache httpd as Apple supplied Apache httpd is broken. 
>>>>> Installing from upstream Apache httpd source code also will not work. You 
>>>>> need to install Apache httpd using Homebrew and use that instead if want 
>>>>> to use CMMI method.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As to Python, Apple supplied Apache is not under /opt/local so somewhat 
>>>>> doubt that is Xcode version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either way, you can try using "pip install mod_wsgi" method instead. See:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> mod-wsgi
>>>>> pypi.org
>>>>>  <https://pypi.org/project/mod-wsgi/>mod-wsgi 
>>>>> <https://pypi.org/project/mod-wsgi/>
>>>>> pypi.org <https://pypi.org/project/mod-wsgi/>
>>>>>  
>>>>> This should work, although do note that latest macOS versions block you 
>>>>> running third party Apache module, so your only choice is to use 
>>>>> mod_wsgi-express instead and you can't manually configure Apache using 
>>>>> the module it builds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using HomeBrew Apache avoids the macOS restrictions on third party Apache 
>>>>> modules as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Feb 2023, at 6:00 pm, Gnarlodious <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>> ./configure --with-python=/opt/local/bin/python 
>>>>>> --with-apxs=/opt/local/bin/apxs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...which points to Python3.9 in Xcode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I said make and got errors at the end with no build file:
>>>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option 
>>>>>> '-L/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/config'
>>>>>> ld: warning: -undefined dynamic_lookup may not work with chained fixups
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is a folder at
>>>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9
>>>>>> ...but no config folder inside it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is MacOS 13.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's the next step?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Gnarlie
>>>>>> 
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