We had a thrust bearing collapse on Froggie the Land-Rover a few years ago, and 
that was manifested as a screech and no declutch at all.  

I started her in gear, and drove her over to Stockland clutchless (and thanked 
heaven for having specified a removable gearbox cross-member on the new 
chassis).
 

Good luck
Philip

 

 

Philip Watson 
PXY917


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mogtalk2] Thrust bearing noise?
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:23:57 +0100

AddendumI remember now, my first car had a failing thrust bearing. Made a 
dreadful screeching noise when hot, but never failed to operate. Eventually 
replaced the whole clutch as I was sick of the noise and convinced it would all 
fall to bits.
rgds Martyn 

 From: Martyn J Culling [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 22 July 2012 09:24
To: mogtalk2
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Thrust bearing noise? Adrian I know you said thrust 
bearing - and I replied in that vein but actually now I think about it, my 
failure was a pilot bearing. But both thrust and pilot bearings are both inside 
the clutch and are both operating when you press the clutch pedal and failure 
of either is a similar repair job.  My bearing was wreaked. The rollers had 
made a bid for freedom and jammed the gearbox shaft to the crank.  I was shown 
some of bits by the garage; I think they thought I'd find the tale hard to 
believe!Do you know a good mechanic? The first sensible step is asking the 
opinion of someone who a) has good hearing and b) has plenty of experience of 
that engine. I've got a feeling the problem may not be the pilot or the thrust 
bearing at all, may even not be that significant, but I'd definitely be looking 
for a good second opinion from a good mechanic. Mileage is not really a clue. 
As rule, both pilot and thrust bearings last a good long time and while failure 
is uncommon, a failure at 3000 miles as I had, can occur. While I can't 
remember the exact amounts, the cost of my bearing was about 80p, and the 
labour £80 (it was years ago...).  For those who are uncertain of what bearing 
is what, the pilot bearing is the bearing between the gearbox and the crank - 
the one you have fun engaging when you put a clutch back together and a thrust 
bearing is the bearing that presses on the clutch diaphragm to release the 
clutch. rgds Martyn 
On Jul 21 2012, Adrian Slade wrote: 

Hi Martyn 

Was the one piece crank with main shaft due to the bearing failing and then no 
clutch? 

Mine is very odd as it was a knock, knock and then nothing, and as soon as I 
reversed no noise at all, and since then having driven 20 miles it is still 
silent. I am a little worried by this. The car has only done 24k miles and the 
clutch feels fine, the only thing I can think of is the bearing has dried out 
at some point and is starting to fail. What do you think?

Regards,

Adrian

Sent from my iPad

On 21 Jul 2012, at 16:15, Martyn J Culling wrote:

> Adrian
> 
> From personal experience - be careful. My crossflow thrust bearing made a 
> noise, and less than 1000 miles late I had a one piece crank and gearbox main 
> shaft.
> 
> Over 100 miles from home, on a motorway, on a bank holiday Saturday, I pulled 
> into a service station and could not change gear. RAC man managed to find a 
> garage to fix it, and really, the price for a big job on a Saturday was a 
> bargain. Plus I could carry on and do another 300 miles and go on my holiday 
> - just made arrival many hours late.
> 
> rgds Martyn 
> 
> On Jul 21 2012, Adrian Slade wrote: 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Just got trusty Rosie (plus 8) out for a run to Sidmouth with she who must be 
> obeyed in passenger seat. Got 200 yards and then funny nocking noise, 
> initially I thought oh no a stuck valve, the I noticed clutch depressed a no 
> noise, ah ah! 
> 
> So I stuck it into reverse moved back a bit to turn around an then into 1st 
> and the noise had gone. So I moved forward and back and still no noise, so 
> great. We continued on our journey at up to 60 and all was fine there and 
> back.
> 
> So now I am home this is praying on my mind a bit, I cannot detect any noise 
> from the gearbox, or the nocking noise, so my initial thought is a small 
> stone might have got into the clutch workings am putting it into reverse 
> freed it out (not sure if there is external access holes for this to happen). 
> 
> Has anyone else experienced anything similar, or is it a sign of a failure 
> looming possibly?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
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