I am sorry but you do not buy any sports car to save money, maybe I am missing the point here!!!
Sent from my iPad On 13 Aug 2012, at 17:42, MICHAEL CALLAGHAN <terry1...@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have a big diesel engine bmw car, it returns over 45 mpg, I love v8,s but I > am only seeing things as they are, morgan dealers can,t sale them, lots for > sale there must be a reason. I am not into all this green rubbish at all but > its money out of the wallet paying the tax they keep putting up. as you said > if you only want the car for a few 1000 miles each year it maybe ok, any more > then that you need deep pockets. michael > > From: A11OGE 4/4 4 seater <morgana11...@googlemail.com> > To: mogtalk2 <mogta...@listbox.com> > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012, 17:35 > Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] RE: Chips - non mog- now +8 & big engines > Don't live to regret not buying a +8. I am asking myself the same questions > On 13 Aug 2012 17:27, "Owen Jenkins" <o...@osjl.co.uk> wrote: > People have been predicting the end of big engines for nearly 4 decades .In > 1973 at the time of the first oil crisis (oil went from $3/bbl to $30/bbl in > a matter of days), Americans were supposed to have fallen out of love with > V8s. Most didn't. When I bought a V12 Jag 24 years ago I did so before they > became impossible to own. I thought that by now we'd all be driving electric > cars or ones driven by tiny, high-revving motors. In the meantime, fuel > prices have continued to rise and there is a greater range of large, powerful > engines on the market than ever before. They are also much more efficient > than they used to be. We have seen commercial V-10 and W8/12/16 engines come > on the market. The Chrysler V10 in various versions has gone into a load of > pick-up trucks as well as the Dodge Viper and Bristol Fighter (has anyone > ever seen one of the latter, by the way?). > > You might be right, but there are an awful lot of big engined cars still > being produced out there. It may be a minority market, but it exists, despite > all the dire warnings from pundits, who are unable to quantify emotional > appeal. It is emotional appeal which draws us to Morgans, not a desire for a > sensible family car. > > You may remember we were about to enter an ice age in 1970, based on global > temperature trends. There was a memorable TV documentary about it. > > My crystal ball remains extremely cloudy. > > Owen. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MICHAEL CALLAGHAN > To: mogtalk2 > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] RE: Chips - non mog- now +8 > > hi chaps, well I had an old +8 years back when I was in my 30,s and i hated > it, rover v8,s are great engines for sure but the are just wasted in a > morgan, these days with sky high fuel costs and the green thing I think that > v8,s will just become old hat, What I was looking for in a car this time > round now at 55 was a car that would not cost a arm and leg to tax, insurance > etc, so thats the german sports cars out, I did not wish to spend weeks on > end cutting out rust sports so that takes out the old e types etc. I don,t > like MG,s so it was back to morgan, I ended up with a 2 year old 4/4 with the > ford sigma engine in, OK its underpowered even for a morgan, but it comes > with low tax insurance and good mpg just over 45 mpg, so i can drive it > without it eating my wallet, also V8,s are on all the dealers forecourts and > not selling, and if its bad today it will be very bad tomorrow, the days of > the big engine cars are coming to an end sad to say. michael > > From: Tim Harris <t...@lambdapi.plus.com> > To: mogtalk2 <mogta...@listbox.com> > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012, 12:17 > Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] RE: Chips - non mog- now +8 > Two things for which +8s are justly renowned: they sound absolutely gorgeous, > and they have simply prodigious quantities of torque. > > Two things about which you may (or may not) be mildly concerned: The handling > is somewhat ponderous compared to the smaller cars, which is an advantage if > highway cruising/touring is your bag, less so if you like flinging it round > the twisties. The only other downside is the fuel consumption, which compared > to the 45mpg+ of the newer +4s is a bit disastrous, with sub 20mpg not being > uncommon when driven enthusiastically. > > They are also enormously valuable these days, second hand prices are sky high > - which may or may not be a good thing, depending on how fat your wallet is. > > I've actually only driven one once, the feeling of being shoved along on an > unstoppable wave of torque was really quite something. As Colin says, if you > drive one once, you will know immediately what they are about. > > Tim > View posts on The Mail Archive > http://www.mail-archive.com/mogtalk2@listbox.com/ > Modify Your Subscription > View posts on The Mail Archive > http://www.mail-archive.com/mogtalk2@listbox.com/ > Modify Your Subscription > View posts on The Mail Archive > http://www.mail-archive.com/mogtalk2@listbox.com/ > Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- View posts on The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/mogtalk2@listbox.com/ [http://www.mail-archive.com/mogtalk2@listbox.com/] Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=22459785&id_secret=22459785-4a39ddf8 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com