Has anyone tried the centerlock alloys? They are offered by Moss Motors and several other suppliers here in the US as a direct replacement for wire wheels. They are a bit pricey but do not require replacing the hubs, etc. They are available in size 15 x 5.5 which should fit the Morgans.
From: A11OGE 4/4 4 seater [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:06 AM To: mogtalk2 Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires To change from wires to alloys I understand that you need to change the hubs and a lot more. I would suggest getting a set of winter wires. These should of the painted type. -- Steve A11OGE Red 4/4 4 seater On 16 April 2012 14:48, andy begg <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Owen. Yes, I have the salty Scottish roads to deal plus the Irish sea is 60ft from our front door on a good day and running down it on a bad day. I was thinking of getting alloys fitted so that I can work on the wire ones. I think the spokes are ok - it is the rims that are starting to age. But I suppose if the rims are suffering then the wires will be also. The car came with the wires factory fitted - is it easy enought to switch to alloys? Are the alloys special size/fitting for the Plus 8 or can other suppliers wheels be used? cheers Andy in sunny (at the moment) Portpatrick. _____ From: Owen Jenkins <[email protected]> To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 16 April 2012, 11:17 Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires Andy, There's a lot of pseudo-science talked about WD40. If you find it helps you with your cleaning activity, use it. It does help when trying to remove rust - we used loads of it when I was working offshore in the 1970's for helping to free up badly rusted items and cleaning them up. As I'm sure you know, it's a water dispersant. It's a type of surfactant which has a lipid (fatty) end and a polar end. The former sticks to the metal, the latter attracts the water and lifts it off the surface.It thus binds up the water. It is not effective as a long-term corrosion inhibitor. Any kind of wax is better. Things like Turtle Wax and Simoniz Paste Wax or even beeswax (all of which come in flat tins and are extremely hard work to use) are reassuringly effective. Having induced chronic rheumatism in your elbows, you'll be pleased with the way your wheels look. The only cure for rusted chrome wires is to replace the spokes affected. I've had several break on my 1988 4/4 as a result of stress corrosion and fatigue. Having eventually tracked down the right spokes, thanks to BHM, my local garage in Aboyne replaced them for me. They fix everything from wheelbarrows to earth movers via Fords, Bristols, Aston Martins and Morgans. We are very lucky. Chrome-plating wire spokes is a daft idea, viewed from the point of view of materials science and selection. It's a recipe for stress corrosion cracking and corrosion fatigue, given the constantly corrosive environment in which car wheels exist and the fatigue loading which spokes see. But never mind. They look nice when clean. I wipe mine on the outside with an oily rag every time I clean the car - which is usually at least twice a year, though sometimes less. The old dull zinc, galvanised wire used for cheap bicycle wheels is extremely hard to beat for sheer practicality. It may not look attractive, but it's a sound engineering solution. Stainless steel spokes aren't bad, but they can suffer crevice, fretting and pitting corrosion which could lead to premature failure, particularly on salty Scottish roads. As Brian and others have pointed out in the past, the Morgan alloy wheels have much to commend them, from an engineering standpoint, provided they are well painted. But don't hit a rock sideways with them! They break. I have an umbrella stand in the back garden made from a Morgan +8 wheel to prove it. Cheers, Owen in chilly Aboyne, 50 miles south of Ron! View posts on Google Groups http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mogtalk <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> <http://www.listbox.com> <http://www.listbox.com> View posts on Google Groups http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mogtalk <http://www.listbox.com> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> <http://www.listbox.com> <http://www.listbox.com> View posts on Google Groups http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mogtalk <http://www.listbox.com> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- View posts on Google Groups http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mogtalk [http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mogtalk] Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=22459785&id_secret=22459785-4a39ddf8 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
