Third one down Brian!
From: Brian Cowell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 May 2012 14:39 To: mogtalk2 Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Sweating at the MOT Thanks for that Dave. I agree with you. No engineers in the House of Commons, suspect the same in the EU. I looked for the Ford Mondeo V6 in the list but couldn't find it. Do not understand why a Morgan is deemed to have the same CO2 emissions as the donor car. Cheers, Brian On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Dave Wellings <[email protected]> wrote: Brian Look on Pager 97 & 98 - the official manufacturers figs. All Mogs are 1.05. http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Emissions%2017th%20Edition.pdf What I really don't understand, is why the upper Lambda matters, when it's the weak measure, and if the CO and HC is OK, a fail on this measure seems bizarre. Dave _____ From: Brian Cowell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 May 2012 16:52 To: mogtalk2 Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Sweating at the MOT Dave, Jon I've come late to this. I think that you both and I have Mk I Roadsters. lambda readings are (all at speeds of about 2700 rpm): Nov 2009 & Nov 2010: 1.01, the bounds being 0.97 and 1.03. All figures given to 2 decimal places. Nov 2011: 1.003, the bounds being given as 0.970 and 1.030. I take the car to the Factory (who use Malvern Motor Services) for its MOT. Petrol used is Shell V Power, although used Shell Premium for some of the time. Cheers Brian of SpotMog On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Martyn J Culling <[email protected]> wrote: Jon Perhaps not a good idea to ask the tester, as you got pass figures, but I wonder what the experimental error is here. Your figure this year is less than 0.5% different to last year which to a lot of measuring methods is the same thing! Woodstock of course is much pre-catalyst and just does not have to emit "excessive" smoke. Likewise the three wheeler. rgds Martyn From: Jon Mark [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 May 2012 20:59 To: mogtalk2 Subject: RE: [mogtalk2] Sweating at the MOT Dave, interesting info My Roadster passed it's test today & I was just comparing last year emissions whilst I file the test cert (which is a recipe for forgeries, there's no special text, or watermark & it's just printed on white photocopier paper - bonkers) Lambda this year 1.03 Last year 1.025 2010 1.024 2009 1.018 Do they 'wear' out ? or is it just with price watching on petrol, I put more supermarket stuff in than I used to ? Although it's the first test since being 'chipped' Regards, Jon _____ From: Dave Wellings [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 May 2012 20:29 To: mogtalk2 Subject: [mogtalk2] Sweating at the MOT Some of you will no doubt know all about this, but here is my story from yesterday, just posted on Talkmorgan. MOT today. The form has now been dumbed down. Instead of the green hard to forge certificate, it's a simple white page print out, with any advisories on the right hand side. What's more interesting, and worrying is the Lambda requirement. This measures the fuel/air ratio at the tailpipe, and is between two parameters, which for my Morgan is (allegedly) 0.9 to 1.03. This is a very narrow band. On the screen, this displays as a red band with a narrow green pass band. The measure is shown as a white bar, and is taken at a prescribed 'fast idle' - just under 3000rpm. It was a struggle to get below 1.03. After a couple of attempts the tester managed 1.025. A high reading indicates a leak in the exhaust system, but both tailpipes produced the same effect. There is no obvious leak, but the Lambda shows a weak mixture. On checking last years result, it was 1.024, so that was right at the top end. The machine can't be conned, so exceed the limit and you will fail. View posts on The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; b> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> Image removed by sender. ------------------------------------------- View posts on The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ [http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/] Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=22459785&id_secret=22459785-4a39ddf8 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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