Done --- hopefully completely and consistently in code, documentation (usgae
measages) and stable test outputs.
Stefan
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:36:17PM +0100, Niels Nes wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:32:13PM +0100, Stefan Manegold wrote:
> > Niels,
> >
> > can you please confirm that any functionality to explicitly switch between
> > the "old" (direct-binary) and "new" (Algebra) version of SQL not required
> > any more?
> > On the server side, "--set sql_debug=16384" used to enable the Algebra
> > version before it has become default last week.
> > Am I right that (a) "--set sql_debug=16384" does not (have to) do this job
> > any more and (b) there is no new/respective functionality to switch back to
> > the old version?
> algebra is default and doesn't require sql_debug=16384 anymore.
> The old default is removed from the sources!
>
> >
> > In that case, we should indeed consistently and completely remove all
> > back-end switching functionality *for SQL* (only) from the code (server,
> > client, testing) as weel as from the respective documentation, website and
> > usage messages.
> From the server this is done. For -g/G should be dependend on -lxquery
> then I guess.
>
> Niels
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> > > Stefan Manegold wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 03:50:22PM +0000, Martin Kersten wrote:
> > > >> Update of /cvsroot/monetdb/clients/src/mapiclient
> > > >> In directory 23jxhf1.ch3.sourceforge.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11819/mapiclient
> > > >>
> > > >> Modified Files:
> > > >> MapiClient.mx
> > > >> Log Message:
> > > >> Start removing the default choice. It should not be an option
> > > >> any longer.
> > > >> Preferrably, we should remove the -g altogether.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> U MapiClient.mx
> > > >> Index: MapiClient.mx
> > > >> ===================================================================
> > > >> RCS file: /cvsroot/monetdb/clients/src/mapiclient/MapiClient.mx,v
> > > >> retrieving revision 1.130
> > > >> retrieving revision 1.131
> > > >> diff -u -d -r1.130 -r1.131
> > > >> --- MapiClient.mx 5 Dec 2008 14:57:32 -0000 1.130
> > > >> +++ MapiClient.mx 13 Dec 2008 15:50:20 -0000 1.131
> > > >> @@ -1287,7 +1287,6 @@
> > > >> stream_printf(toConsole, "\\a - disable auto commit\n");
> > > >> }
> > > >> if (mode == SQL || mode == XQUERY) {
> > > >> - stream_printf(toConsole, "\\G - switch to algebra frontend\n");
> > > >> stream_printf(toConsole, "\\g - switch to old frontend\n");
> > > >
> > > > hm, this means that you tell users only how to switch to the old
> > > > frontend,
> > > > but once they have done so, they (now) won't get told (anymore) how to
> > > > switch back, again ...
> > > Yes, I would even go as far as completely dropping/hiding this option
> > > for SQL.
> > > The sole reason not to do it with this check-in was that Mtest and friends
> > > may need a change too.
> > > The owners can propagate that, otherwise I will continue....checking in.
> > > > ... maybe not that handy --- and for XQuery, the "old" backend is both
> > > > still
> > > > available and still required for some functionality ...
> > > The real question is if new users need to be aware of this 'backward'
> > > switch/functionality. Existing users may be supported for a limited time
> > > to avoid failing scripts.
> > > Reduction of the options is preferred, no knobs!
> > > > Hence, IMHO
> > > > (1) "-G" / "-g" and "\G" / "\g" make only sense as pairs, i.e., to
> > > > switch
> > > > back and forth, i.e., removing one does not make (much) sense; and
> > > > (2) XQuery still requires both for the time being.
> > > >
> > > > Thus, if we don't need either for SQL any more, we should remove the
> > > > documentation (and functionality) of both switches only for SQL, but
> > > > not for
> > > > XQuery --- and if we do so, we should do this everywhere, i.e., not only
> > > > with mclient, but also with Mserver/mserver5,
> > > > MonetDB.conf/monetdb5.conf,
> > > > Mtest.py and the wbe site --- well, lacking branches, the latter can
> > > > only be
> > > > done once we have a new feature release in about 3 month from now ...
> > > >
> > > > Stefan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> }
> > > >> if (mode == XQUERY) {
> > > >> @@ -1709,7 +1708,6 @@
> > > >> fprintf(stderr, " -r nr | --rows=nr for pagination\n");
> > > >> fprintf(stderr, " -w nr | --width=nr for pagination\n");
> > > >> fprintf(stderr, " -D | --dump create an SQL dump\n");
> > > >> - fprintf(stderr, " -G | --algebra use algebra frontend\n");
> > > >> fprintf(stderr, " -g | --no-algebra use old frontend\n");
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> fprintf(stderr, "\nXQuery specific options\n");
> > > >>
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