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Today's Topics:

   1. Some questions (Sid Just)
   2. width_bucket function (metin d)
   3. Re: datetime extract function performance (Ying Zhang)
   4. Re: width_bucket function (Ying Zhang)
   5. Re: datetime extract function performance (metin d)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:18:28 +0200
From: "Sid Just" <just...@gmx.com>
To: developers-l...@monetdb.org
Subject: Some questions
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Greetings all,

 I have a simple question about MonetDB.
 I'm evaluating different several column-store db and I have some questions 
about Monet :

    * 
Is MonetDB a column-store database ? If yes I can't understand how I can query 
it with standard SQL (it'so simple bue it seem to be the ONLY column-store db 
that support SQL)    * 
Can MonetDB scale-out over several machines (to build a cluster) for the same 
database ?    * 
There is no .NET provider that I can use to connect to MonetDB for fast 
accessing from C# instead of using ODBC ?In general I'm looking for a database 
that can perform realtime queries against milions of records, because we are 
going to build a web application that need real fast access to the data.
 What are best practices in desing tables in MonetDB ?

 Thanks a lot to everyone!
 S
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: metin d <met...@yahoo.com>
To: "developers-l...@monetdb.org" <developers-l...@monetdb.org>
Subject: width_bucket function
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Hey,

In features web page it says?that?monetDB?is based on the SQL 2003 standard, 
but?width_bucket function doesn't work although it is in??SQL 2003 standard 
(http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-2003-2.bnf.html#width bucket function).

Thanks.
Metin
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:08:05 +0200
From: Ying Zhang <y.zh...@cwi.nl>
To: "Communication channel for developers of the MonetDB suite."
        <developers-l...@monetdb.org>
Subject: Re: datetime extract function performance
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Hello Metin,

Before we can say anything about your use case, would you please provide
us the following information:

- query
- db schema
- db size
- output of 'mserver5 --version'
- OS
- Postgres version (assuming it's running on the same machine?)
- execution time of your "extract" function on MonetDB and Postgres
- how did you measure those times?

Kind regards,

Jennie

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 02:34:02AM -0700, metin d wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm running a small performance test on MonetDB and
> Postgres. According to my results "extract" function in monetDB (http:/
> /www.monetdb.org/Documentation/SQLreference/Temporal) is nearly 10x
> slower then Postgres. 
> 
> Do you know the reason, or do you have any idea which can make
> "extract" function faster in MonetDB ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Metin

> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:10:47 +0200
From: Ying Zhang <y.zh...@cwi.nl>
To: "Communication channel for developers of the MonetDB suite."
        <developers-l...@monetdb.org>
Subject: Re: width_bucket function
Message-ID: <20121019141046.gg21...@cwi.nl>
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Hello Metin,

MonetDB is indeed based on SQL:2003, but we don't support all SQL:2003
features.  This page gives an overview of what we do support:
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/SQLreference/Features/Supported

You can consider submitting a feature request.

Kind regards,

Jennie

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:19:49AM -0700, metin d wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> In features web page it says that monetDB is based on the SQL 2003
> standard, but width_bucket function doesn't work although it is in  SQL
> 2003 standard (http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-2003-2.bnf.html#width
> bucket function).
> 
> Thanks.
> Metin

> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: metin d <met...@yahoo.com>
To: "Communication channel for developers of the MonetDB suite."
        <developers-l...@monetdb.org>
Subject: Re: datetime extract function performance
Message-ID:
        <1350658120.81805.yahoomail...@web141104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Hi Ying,

Here the information yo asked.
Best Regards,
Metin

- queries and execution times (internel time reports of DBs) - there is only 
one day in the dataset
I used time difference between queries with extract and without extract. For 
this examples, it is around 4x assuming difference is because of extract 
function.

MonetDB:

Ex. time: 4.8s
SELECT
??? extract(day from event_time) as event_day,
??? act,
??? count(*)
FROM
??? events
GROUP BY
??? act,
??? event_day;

Ex. time: 70ms
SELECT
??? act,
??? count(*)
FROM
??? events
GROUP BY
??? act;

Postgres:

Ex. time: 2.9s
SELECT
??? extract(day from event_time) as event_day,
??? act,
??? count(*)
FROM
??? events
GROUP BY
??? act,
??? event_day;

Ex. time: 1.7s
SELECT
??? act,
??? count(*)
FROM
??? events
GROUP BY
??? act;


-db schema

CREATE TABLE events(
??? event_time timestamp,
??? event varchar(100)
);


- db size
300 MB

- output of 'mserver5 --version'
MonetDB 5 server v11.11.11 "Jul2012-SP2" (64-bit, 64-bit oids)


- OS
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS


- Postgres version
9.1.6





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 From: Ying Zhang <y.zh...@cwi.nl>
To: Communication channel for developers of the MonetDB suite. 
<developers-l...@monetdb.org> 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: datetime extract function performance
 
Hello Metin,

Before we can say anything about your use case, would you please provide
us the following information:

- query
- db schema
- db size
- output of 'mserver5 --version'
- OS
- Postgres version (assuming it's running on the same machine?)
- execution time of your "extract" function on MonetDB and Postgres
- how did you measure those times?

Kind regards,

Jennie

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 02:34:02AM -0700, metin d wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm running a small performance test on MonetDB and
> Postgres. According to my results "extract" function in monetDB (http:/
> /www.monetdb.org/Documentation/SQLreference/Temporal) is nearly 10x
> slower then Postgres. 
> 
> Do you know the reason, or do you have any idea which can make
> "extract" function faster in MonetDB ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Metin

> _______________________________________________
> developers-list mailing list
> developers-l...@monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/developers-list

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