On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 06:41 +0100, Dave Murphy wrote: > On 19/07/06, Kevin Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ubuntu - the bagillion packages you need to get RoR up and running is > > a real hassle. > > Here we go again. Why is `sudo apt-get install rails` so hard? *You* > don't need to install a 'bagillion' packages, that's apt's job. Even > if you want to run a more current version of Rails, you only need 6 > packages plus rubygems.
Everyone understands you disagree Dave, and that's fine, nodoby holds it against you at all and it's not a religious war. If you notice these folks (including myself) use Debian. They aren't saying it sucks, they're complaining that Ruby is too sliced. No amount of arguing or yelling at them will change their minds since it's an experience based judgement. At some point you have to start blaming Debian and stop blaming the users. I hear this one complaint *constantly*. Go look at the bug tracker, forums, and mailing list. #1 recurring bug is Debian not installing build tools to build Mongrel. Even after continually telling people what to do it doesn't help. Eventually, the amount of evidence that this package slicing is a problem will have to be acknowledged. The sad thing is that Debian could easily fix it by having a "developer mode" flag to apt-get that just installed all the developer crap as well. That would resolve the conflict between systems admins and developers quite easily. Also it would help if the packages were named consistently. -- Zed A. Shaw http://www.zedshaw.com/ http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/ http://www.railsmachine.com/ -- Need Mongrel support? _______________________________________________ Mongrel-users mailing list Mongrel-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
