On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:57:51 -0700
"Kyle Kochis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "First, really they should do their own research and try it in a test
> scenario.  Reading a changelog isn't going to help their anxiety over
> the upgrade.  I never read changelogs since half the time they lie
> about the new version's actual stability and improvements for *my*
> application.  Instead I test the new software and if it works then I
> plan an upgrade very carefully."
> 
> I agree with you on the stability lying on many changelogs but still
> it is nice as a user to know _exactly why_ a new version was released.
> It is nice to have that info just so you know exactly how
> important/urgent it is to upgrade so I can more appropriately
> prioritize my administration tasks. That said, I am by no means
> requesting you do things differently; I am perfectly fine looking
> through the svn logs at svn://rubyforge.org/var/svn/mongrel.

http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/releases/ChangeLog

is what, and

http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/news.html

is why.

That's really the best I can do without help.  I have to automate things, and 
svn changelogs blow so I'm stuck.  Without automation I'd be burdened with 
writing this same information over and over again in various forms.  
Considering there's a wealth of change information including svn logs, atom 
feeds, news announcements, bug trackers, forums, and mailing lists it's not 
like there's nothing.  So, I tell people if that's not enough, then your 
requirements are exceptional and you should do something for yourself to solve 
the problem.

But, one thing I don't hear is a solution.  Just a criticism.  If you've got a 
particular tool that automates change logging the way you like it and want to 
do the work to get it implemented in the mongrel build process then step up and 
help.  Otherwise, what I got is the best I can do given my time constraints.

In other words, criticism without a proposed solution or assistance is 
meaningless.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.
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