Looks like I was overloading the mongrels with connections...I took down the
number of connections allowed in HAProxy and it looks like the problem went
away. So,
thanks!

This has uncovered a new problem though, one that's truly baffling me:

- Start up mongrel instances. Everything is awesome. Site is fast, life is
good.
- Wait 30-40 minutes.
- Observe that updates and inserts in the database (postgres) are becoming
slow. And by slow, I mean 30-40 seconds for a simple insert or update where
it previously took less than 0.1 seconds. Load on DB server itself remains
nominal; less than 2 on an 8 core box. No error messages of importance that
I can see. Inserts and updates from other sources (script/console, psql) are
fast.

This started happening just after switching from fcgi to mongrels. Could it
be something is different about how it handles database connections? Was I
relying on some kind of bug before?

E

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Brian Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Emmett,
>
> Contrary to what Zed's message seems to imply, there is nothing
> inherently wrong with codling like:
>
> a = FIle.open("blah.txt")
> a.write("hi!")
> a.close()
>
> You simply need to understand that if any error occurs during
> a.write(...) or  a similar call then a.close will not be invoked. If
> you use error handling like
>
> a = FIle.open("blah.txt")
> begin
>  a.write("hi!")
> ensure
>  a.close()
> end
>
> then you will ensure that the file is actually closed regardless of an
> exception. Of course a block like that is kind of ugly, so it's better
> to do what Zed suggested and actually associate a code block with the
> open call. This means that even if the block faults the file is
> closed; it's just a cleaner syntax.
>
> Here are some links that kind of explains it too:
>
>  http://www.meshplex.org/wiki/Ruby/File_handling_Input_Output
>  
> http://www.math.hokudai.ac.jp/~gotoken/ruby/ruby-uguide/uguide25.html<http://www.math.hokudai.ac.jp/%7Egotoken/ruby/ruby-uguide/uguide25.html>
>
> -- Brian
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Zed A. Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:07:27 -0700
> > "Emmett Shear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I just switched to Mongrel, and it's been working much better than my
> >> previous lighttpd/fastcgi setup. So thanks for the awesomeness.
> >>
> >> My current problem: once or twice an hour, I get following error in
> >> production
> >>
> >> Mongrel timed out this thread: too many open files
> >>
> >> I never get it in testing or on our staging server. Any ideas what would
> >> cause that? It doesn't *appear* particularly correlated with load to me,
> but
> >> I'm only receiving notifications after the fact so I can't be sure.
> >
> > A couple things cause this.  One is that the mongrel is overloaded with
> > too many connections so it can't accept any more.
> >
> > If there's isn't that much load on the server, then it's more likely
> > that you are leaking an open file here or there.  If you are doing code
> > like this:
> >
> > a = open("blah.txt")
> > a.write("hi")
> > a.close()
> >
> > Then you are probably leaking files.  Look for that, and then translate
> > to the block form:
> >
> > open("blah.txt") {|a| a.write("hi") }
> >
> > That's probably the #1 mistake people make from other languages.
> >
> > --
> > Zed A. Shaw
> > - Hate: http://savingtheinternetwithhate.com/
> > - Good: http://www.zedshaw.com/
> > - Evil: http://yearofevil.com/
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> /* insert witty comment here */
>
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