Mode: Auto | manual | laststate

Please default it to auto, unless specified otherwise. 

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> On 06 May 2016, at 3:09 PM, Guillaume François 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> In fact, it could be still a bit confusing with the current keyword 
> especially with the "mode".
> 
> Instead of  mode <auto | noauto | adaptive > maybe the following is more 
> explicit onreboot < start | nostart | laststate > 
> 
> Having a new keyword could brake configuration backward compatibility but 
> possible workaround is to support both (if feasible), with their own original 
> behavior having the old one being deprecated. Obviously in that case 
> specifying both keyword is forbidden.
> 
> How to you plan to advertise user of the new configuration keywords ? I never 
> encountered someone using monit as init process (pid 0) but breaking legacy 
> behavior could harm them.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> 2016-05-06 14:38 GMT+02:00 Martin Pala <[email protected]>:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> we'd like to know what you think about the change of the "mode" statement 
>> implementation, which we plan to do in monit 5.18 to make the startup modes 
>> easier to understand.
>> 
>> Current implementation:
>> ####################
>> 
>> In the current implementation, the service monitoring state is always 
>> persistent across reboot, i.e. if you do "monit stop <service>" (or 
>> unmonitor), it remains stopped/unmonitored after reboot too. If you want to 
>> enable it again, you have to do "monit start <service>".
>> 
>> This behaviour is confusing for some users, as it is different from common 
>> service control frameworks like SysVinit rc scripts, Upstart and Systemd, 
>> which start services automatically after system reboot.
>> 
>> If user wanted to have automatic startup regardless of a service state 
>> before reboot, it was recommended to either place the monit state file to a 
>> volatile filesystem, or add "monit monitor all" to the monit start script.
>> 
>> Current syntax:
>> 
>>      mode <active | passive | manual>
>> 
>>      The difference between these modes is currently minimal, the last 
>> service state (started or stopped) is always persistent state across reboot.
>> 
>> 
>> Proposed modification:
>> ####################
>> 
>> New syntax:
>> 
>>      mode <auto | noauto | adaptive>
>> 
>>      Where:
>>              auto = always start automatically after reboot
>>              noauto = never start automatically after reboot
>>              adaptive = restore the same state the service had before reboot
>> 
>> Details:
>> 
>>      active (last state persistent across reboot) -> auto (always start 
>> after reboot; DEFAULT mode):
>>              "active" will be renamed to "auto" and the mode will NOT be 
>> persistent across reboot. If you stop a service and reboot the machine, the 
>> service will be started automatically after reboot.
>> 
>>      manual (last state persistent across reboot) -> noauto (always stopped 
>> after reboot):
>>              This mode is an antonym of "auto" - the service should NEVER 
>> start automatically after reboot. This mode is intended for a 
>> high-availability solutions with active/passive clusters. For example: the 
>> service group HA is started on
>>              machine M1, the machine M2 is backup, heartbeat is in place 
>> between both machines. The service group HA (such as an mobile IP alias + 
>> application server). must be started on one node only. When M1 dies, M2 
>> takes HA group over,
>>              but if M1 reboots, it is important that it won't try to start 
>> the HA group too (even though it was active on M1 before it crashed), as HA 
>> is running on M2 now.
>> 
>>      adaptive (new):
>>              An adaptive mode, which is PERSISTENT across reboot, based on 
>> the last service state (i.e. stopped before reboot => stopped after reboot 
>> too; monitored before reboot => monitored after reboot too)
>> 
>>      passive (obsolete):
>>              Will be obsolete (but still supported for backward 
>> compatibility). Long time ago, there was no "if does not exist then 
>> <action>" statement, so if the user wanted to receive just alerts if the 
>> process died and to have
>>              start+stop programs in the service configuration, the "mode 
>> passive" allowed to override restart action and alert only. With presence of 
>> "if does not exist" statement it's no longer necessary.
>> 
>> 
>> Alternative mode names:
>> 
>>      "noauto"                ... maybe keep current name?: "manual"
>>      "adaptive"      ... maybe call it "persistent"?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your feedback, enjoy the weekend,
>> 
>> Best regards from the Monit team :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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