I had sent this originally to Steve directly, but I thought I would post it here to as the conversation has continued (and probably should end here as it is off the purpose of the list)
"Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh. The open source community gets requests like that all of the time and there are segments of the industry that do not understand how this works and/or blindly reuse what others have done without a clue how many hours they have saved.... So after spending some time developing OSS myself, it can feel thankless. (NDoc new development ended due to this exact reason) Anyways, I actually have a team of 15 resources in India (that we outsource to our clients) and we deal with this on a daily basis - we try to stress communication skills and electronic message etiquette." So regardless of translation, I believe requests for help should have a tone of "thankfulness". I apologize for being so blunt and not taking my own advice ;) Ok, back to creating good software that allows us to get our jobs done :) Tim On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Charlie Poole <char...@nunit.com> wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > I'm not sure how much we want to go into this but... > > Some cultures use little words like please, others rely > on non-verbal cues. Some people use automatic translation, > while others use their own skills. > > The OP was considered "rude" because he used an imperative > construct, rather than asking a question. The reply did > exactly the same thing. He didn't say "please" - neither > did the reply. Maybe that was deliberate irony, but it > came across to me as merely being unnecessarily harsh. > The poster will have to be very brave to try again. > > If we want to encourage certain ways of communicating, I > strongly believe we have to model them. > > As far as Nabble goes, I'm with you. I use mail lists > rather than online forums because I'm often disconnected. > Typical Nabble responses don't include any context unless > you go to the site. > > Charlie > > > Am 16.12.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Steve Bjorg: > > > > > Did it not occur to you that English might not be the > > poster's native > > > language? > > > > Even Google can translate "please" correctly afaihs. > > > > Nabble has significantly drowned the quality of the Mono > > mailing lists with such unprofessional two-line posts without > > proper name below (and a stupid signature that has no meaning > > other than to enlarge Nabble.com's Page Rank). That's not a > > question of language. I rarely still read Mono-list or > > Mono-osx due to this unfortunate phenomenon, but the > > offending message is on Mono-dev, where such a newbie > > question certainly is wrong. > > > > Andreas > > > > Linked from the main page: http://mono-project.com/Start > > also: http://www.mono-project.com/Guide:Running_Mono_Applications > > > > > > > > - Steve > > > > > > -------------- > > > Steve G. Bjorg > > > http://mindtouch.com > > > http://twitter.com/bjorg > > > > > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:49 AM, Timothy Smith wrote: > > > > > >> First trying adding "please" to your requests and maybe pose your > > >> request as a question. The mono contributors work hard to > > make any of > > >> this happen! > > >> > > >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Jayaganesan > > >> <jayash...@extolutionind.com > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi, I have developed an windows application using .net > > 3.5, I need to > > >> run this application from a mac machine. Let me know how > > to achieve > > >> do this... > > >> -- > > >> View this message in context: [...] > > >> Sent from the Mono - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mono-devel-list mailing list > > >> Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > > >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Timothy B. Smith > > >> Venturality, Inc. > > >> 847-420-2378 (Direct/Mobile) > > >> 888-317-9338 (Toll Free) > > >> web: http://www.venturality.com > > >> blog: http://ramblingentrepreneur.blogspot.com > > >> > > >> **Please consider the environment before printing this email.** > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mono-devel-list mailing list > > >> Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > > >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mono-devel-list mailing list > > > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mono-devel-list mailing list > > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-devel-list mailing list > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > -- Timothy B. Smith Venturality, Inc. 847-420-2378 (Direct/Mobile) 888-317-9338 (Toll Free) web: http://www.venturality.com blog: http://ramblingentrepreneur.blogspot.com **Please consider the environment before printing this email.**
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