Hello, > > If you did such a careful study with your lawyer, would you mind > > publishing it so others can review it? > > And I suppose you would just turn over internal Ximian/Novell legal advice and > developer discussions should I ask for it? Nice try to avoid the apology.
Rhys, I am not the one making claims that `Windows.Forms has no patent violations', you are the one who claimed that you had done a careful study. What I said is reflected on our FAQ: we dont believe that *any* of it is patentable. But if you are going to pick `Windows.Forms' as part of your initiative of "apis which are absolutely not encumbered by a patent", then I believe that Norbert is miss-leading the community and it can not be the basis of a completely pure effort to have a non-encumbered system. You claim that you did a careful study on Windows.Forms and its applicability to the patent, and that is why its excluded. I do not believe either you or Norbert did any careful study. For us to cooperate in this delicate matter, I must trust you, and so far you are not giving me any sense of security. If anything, you are avoiding the topic, just like Darl McBride is. > Anyway, from the USPTO's guidelines on patentability [1]: > > The subject matter sought to be patented must be sufficiently different > from what has been used or described before that it may be said to be > nonobvious to a person having ordinary skill in the area of technology > related to the invention. For example, the substitution of one material > for another, or changes in size, are ordinarily not patentable. > > The last sentence is the important one: "the substitution of one material for > another". Changing C++ in MFC into C# in Windows.Forms would seem to be > little more than a change in "material". An excellent quote, worth keeping it around. > Of course, we could be wrong - anything could happen once the C&D's start > flying. Hence the hedge-betting on Qt# and Gtk#. > > I (still) await your apology. Accusing us of being deceptive, and then asking > that we prove your own accusation, is quite offensive. And needless to say, > uncooperative. > > Cheers, > > Rhys. > > [1] http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html#novelty -- Miguel de Icaza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
