Not only can't it come as a surprise, we should all nod our heads in agreement... There's no question that MSFT .Net on Windows is more complete and more solid than Mono right now. It's ok, we shouldn't expect it to be different yet. I would argue that even Linux, with it's much longer history and incredibly greater amount of resource and effort, is just over the last year approaching the stability and completeness of Windows in certain markets.
Somebody said in IRC that based on code count, mono so far is estimated to have cost under $1m in Novell-paid time to write. While our leverage is much higher in open source, this is still a far cry from the kind of money Microsoft has thrown behind .Net -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Maltes Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:13 AM To: DAN MALTES; 'Carl Olsen'; 'Jonathan Pryor'; 'Jonathan Stowe' Cc: 'RoBiK'; 'Mono-List' Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Ask Microsoft: Mono support I will add to this that Amanda's use of the word "attempt" is obviously meant to communicate that Mono is not as complete or solid as the MS .NET framework. Of course an MS rep will say something like this, of course they want folks to use .NET on Windows. That's a given folks. No need to be offended, or galled, or whatever else. MS was the first to do .NET and they will continue to make the point(right, wrong or otherwise) that it's the most feature rich and stable. Come now, this can't come as a surprise. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Maltes Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:47 AM To: 'Carl Olsen'; 'Jonathan Pryor'; 'Jonathan Stowe' Cc: 'RoBiK'; 'Mono-List' Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Ask Microsoft: Mono support I agree, Amanda Morgan actually says in the second paragraph: "Frankly, Mono is just one example of the level of excitement within the developer community around .NET. " That sure doesn't sound like a FUD of Mono to me. It sounds to me like Amanda is simply saying "we're not involved with Mono, but they are creating something just like the .NET framework because it's an exciting platform". As far as FUD goes, I think people will pull what they want out of what other people say because they have a bias and it serves their agenda. Sociology 101 really. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Olsen Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:15 AM To: 'Jonathan Pryor'; 'Jonathan Stowe' Cc: 'RoBiK'; 'Mono-List' Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Ask Microsoft: Mono support I didn't find Microsoft's position to be negative at all. I agree that ease of use and standardization is needed on Linux platforms. Mono provides exactly that. I've been programming mostly with Microsoft Visual C# for the past year or two and I find it fairly easy to learn to program with C# on Mono. If I had to use another language, I'd be completely lost. I'm only guessing, but Mono could lead to a flood of applications being developed for Linux platforms which would only increase the attraction to Linux. I like Microsoft products because so many people are using them that there's quite a body of knowledge floating around amongst general users, but I'm not opposed to competition. I find Linux to be difficult to work with, but I'm sure it's only because I'm unfamiliar with it. Competition is a good thing for consumers. I want to thank Microsoft for making C# open source and I want to thank Novell and all the people who have worked on Mono for giving us more options instead of less. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Pryor > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:00 AM > To: Jonathan Stowe > Cc: RoBiK; Mono-List > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Ask Microsoft: Mono support > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 06:48, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > <snip/> > > Yes this all true but (and possibly only in my reading) the "attempt > > by Novell" phrase appears to be trying to give it an entirely > > negative connotation. > > I suppose that does have a slightly negative connotation. More > galling to me is that Novell isn't the only entity involved; lots of > individuals are also involved, as is Mainsoft (and likely other companies). > > - Jon > > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
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