I am not on the Mono-dev team, so my opinion doesn't really matter that much, but ...
PHP is first and furthermost *a platform*, not a language. People use PHP because of mod_php and Apache, not because of the way you construct strings ... which I think it is a stupid assumption. People use PHP because it is very *cheap* to have an Apache server with mod_php installed. Period. People *do not* use PHP because it is a beautiful language ... in fact it has lots and lots of problems, which you obviously seem to not know about and/or ignore. Both Python and PHP are languages defined by their implementations, since they are not standardized. They play the role of wrappers for C libraries ... they where designed for this. That's the main reason Jython, IronPython, Phalanger, or whatever ... will never be used outside a very small niche. And btw ... Python is a lot more mature and complete. Python is fully object-oriented. Python is general-purpose. Python is used for many mission-critical applications ... so lets not compare apples to oranges here, and bash a language because the string construction doesn't feel right ... which I think it is very shortsighted ;) About MONO's support ... I am sorry to hear that Phalanger doesn't work on Mono. I really do. But considering that many other languages run on top of Mono, I think you should be talking firstly with the Phalanger's dev team, because I am under the impression they didn't really try. And btw ... the "P" in LAMP is primarily for Perl ;) PS: don't get offended by my tone. I just woke up, and I'm incapable of civilized conversations in the morning :) On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:45 +0530, Ligesh wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:28:33PM +0900, Atsushi Eno wrote: > > Pedro Sobota wrote: > > >> No matter how Phalanger is important for you, it is just one of > > >> applications from the point of a managed runtime's view. (...) If you > > >> want Phalanger on Mono and there are missing bits, we'd welcome your > > >> patches to fix the issues (it happens with related to many applications > > >> such as Nemerle and Boo). > > > Is it just me or this sounds like "it's not important for Mono, if it is > > > for you, you're on your own". > > > > Of course Phalanger is not important enough for Mono to support > > OFFICIALLY. There is nothing you can feel odd. > > > > No no.. That's not a correct attitude, especially since Phalanger is not > just 'another application'. Having Phalanger would be very advantageous for > Mono, since it is actually the most mature non-microsoft compiler I know of. > PHP is the simplest and most popular language out there for web, and I am > still not able to understand how you can dismiss it offhand. Or you mean you > have no interest in reaching the millions of php developers out there? You > are primarily a platform vendor, and your focus is developers. With phalanger > you get a ready made team of millions of skilled and semi-skilled php coders, > and even the people who are new to web, and whose first language of choice is > PHP. I mean, I am totally at a loss as to how to make sense of your attitude. > > > From my discussion with Phalanger people, I did realize that their primary > focus was the Windows platform, but they were ready to co-operate in any > effort to make it work on Mono--at least they were not dismissive of Mono > like you are of Phalanger. > > > -- > :: Ligesh :: http://ligesh.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [email protected] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
