Andrés G. Aragoneses [ knocte ] wrote:
> Andrés G. Aragoneses [ knocte ] escribió:
>> Robert Jordan escribió:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Andrés G. Aragoneses [ knocte ] wrote:
>>>> einKI.ml escribió:
>>>>>> If you don't want to use ASP.NET and/or System.Windows.Form it's up to 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> but note that the fact that there is a closed source implementation of 
>>>>>> them 
>>>>>> (i.e. Microsoft .NET Framewrok) doesn't mean that you should avoid their 
>>>>>> open source implementations (i.e. Mono or Portable.NET, IMHO Mono is 
>>>>>> much 
>>>>>> better:).
>>>>> Im just wondering because they are listed as "controversial elements" in
>>>>> the FAQ. But since I am somewhat familiar with ASP.NET I think it make
>>>>> sense to use it on Linux too.
>>>> There are other frameworks that you can use without ASP.NET AFAIK, that 
>>>> Miguel has not mentioned (perhaps the ones he has mentioned are too tied 
>>>> to the AJAX-thing, I mean, they require JavaScript):
>>> Miguel mentioned projects that don't use System.Web at all.
>>> Dream depends only on some HttpUtility methods (HtmlEncode, etc.),
>>> while Jitzu is completely System.Web independent.
>>>
>>>> - Maverick.NET (if you use non-ASP.NET methods for the view, such as 
>>>> XSLT+XML+XHTML or NVelocity)
>>>> [ http://mavnet.sourceforge.net/ ]
>>> It depends on System.Web
>>>
>>>> - CastleProject (the Ruby on Rails port to C#)
>>>> [ http://www.castleproject.org/ ]
>>> It depends on System.Web, too.
>>>
>>>> - Spring.NET (I haven't used this one but seems a port of the Spring 
>>>> framework from Java to C# that uses AOP)
>>>> [ http://www.springframework.net/ ]
>>> It depends on System.Web as well.
>>>
>>>> Using these frameworks you are not only avoiding the use of ASP.NET but 
>>> You don't.
>> Well, IMHO when we were talking about ASP.NET we were not referring to
>> the strict API that it surrounds but to the way a programmer designs web
>> applications with it (you know, '.aspx' files, <asp:...>-like tags,
>> runat=server attributes...).

That's System.Web.UI. It's basically `just' a HttpHandler for the
ASP.NET Runtime.

> I have re-read the message I firstly replied to and now I think that
> perhaps the conversation was actually about the strict API...

Read the statement "It depends on System.Web" like
"This framework doesn't work outside the ASP.NET Runtime".

Robert

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