On Tuesday 11. September 2012 11:53:03 Andrew York wrote: > How far along is XWT? I'm don't mind trying out something in beta for > fun, but I'm not smart enough to make major contributions. Is XWT far > enough along for the average end developer to start having fun with?
I recently tried it for a new project. It is actually very stable and very comfortable to work with, but the problem is, that is still missing a lot of features that you would expect from something you want to use productively (like message boxes, window-close event, open file dialog, password entry field) > On 9/11/2012 11:50 AM, Ian Norton wrote: > > How do you expect to put anything on the screen or read the mouse, > > keyboard etc without eventually using a native toolkit :) > > > > XWT is very cool, not 100% working for me yet but a very good start. > > > > On 11/09/2012 16:34, Stifu wrote: > >> XWT is still a set of bindings. It calls native code / GUI toolkits > >> underneath. So that's not what he was asking for. > >> I guess there is just not enough money / motivation behind having a > >> fully-managed GUI toolkit. On the other hand, Mono WinForms is one, > >> technically. > >> > >> > >> Slide wrote > >> > >>> There is this one that is being developed https://github.com/mono/xwt > >>> and will be the foundation of MonoDevelop in the future from what I > >>> understand. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM, 殷启聪 <seamlikok@> wrote: > >>>> Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively > >>>> in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is it possible to develop a C# GUI > >>>> toolkit that's OpenGL accelerated (like WPF and Clutter), > >>>> cross-platform (like wxWidgets and Qt) and uses native widgets in > >>>> different desktop environment? Then GTK+, Qt etc. will be used as low > >>>> level components. > >>>> > >>>> 2012/9/11 Stifu <stifu@>: > >>>>> The most recent bit of news I've read about GTK# 3: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Towards-GTK-3-0-tp4650597.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Daniel Hughes wrote > >>>>> > >>>>>> GTK 3 was released 10 Feb 2011. That's a long time ago. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> During that time .net bindings have failed to eventuate. > >>>>>> Information on > >>>>>> what has been happening has been very hard to find, despite a large > >>>>>> number > >>>>>> of .net applications on linux using these bindings. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As the author of an opensource application dependent on these > >>>>>> bindings > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> find this lack of information very concerning. And I'm starting > >>>>>> to ask > >>>>>> myself questions like, Am I now dependent of a dead or dieing > >>>>>> library? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Banshee was removed from the default ubuntu install, officially > >>>>>> because > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> lack of GTK 3 support. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have the following questions: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Where is the source code for GTK 3 support? > >>>>>> As far as I can establish the GTK sharp code is hosted here: > >>>>>> https://github.com/mono/gtk-sharp<https://github.com/mono/gtk-shar > >>>>>> p/branches> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However there is no branch in there labelled as GTK3 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Who supports GTK sharp? > >>>>>> If it is community maintained, who are the main contributors? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a projected or planned release date for GTK 3 support? > >>>>>> Developers dependent on GTK sharp need this information in order to > >>>>>> plan > >>>>>> the future of there applications. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If GTK sharp is really dying then application developers > >>>>>> dependent on > >>>>>> it > >>>>>> need to know, so they can either contribute to it or move there > >>>>>> applications on to something else. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If the bindings are struggling, how come there has been no call > >>>>>> for contributors, or at least transparent information about what is > >>>>>> going > >>>>>> on. Rather then the current back whole of information. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Recently ubuntu held an app competition, it was hugely successful > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> while > >>>>>> it was on people where asking questions like this: > >>>>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/154373/use-primary-toolbar-with-mono > >>>>>> And all we could do was advice that they use another language. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If we lose GTK# bindings where does that leave mono on desktop > >>>>>> linux? > >>>>>> We > >>>>>> have no QT bindings, no clutter bindings and no GTK# 3 bindings. in > >>>>>> sort > >>>>>> we > >>>>>> have no bindings available (by that I mean packaged in debian or > >>>>>> similar) > >>>>>> for the latest version of any native linux GUI tool kit. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm going to say this again, mono developers cannot use the latest > >>>>>> version > >>>>>> of any native linux GUI tool kit. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now maybe the GTK# bindings are alive and well and are about to > >>>>>> issue a > >>>>>> release. However if that is true then the developers have a lot > >>>>>> of room > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> improvement with there communications. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sincerely, > >>>>>> Daniel Hughes > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
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