There are times that you want to use a role, but only as an interface. If 9 out of 10 classes use the implementation, it's annoying to have that 10th class have to do this:
with 'My::Role' => { excludes => \...@a_long_list_of_methods }; What about something like this? with 'My::Role' => { includes => [] }; That would be the mutually exclusive opposite of 'excludes'. No methods would be composed into your class, but they would all be added to the 'requires' list. This (I think) would largely overcome chromatic's objection (http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=42835&cid=68295) that if someone wants to use a role as an interface, being forced to manually exclude every method is annoying and would discourage role use. So a role could be trivially used as an interface, if desired, even if implementation is provided. Plus, if you still needed two of the 8 methods a role provided: with 'My::Role' => { includes => [qw{ foo bar }] }; Seems to me that this is the best of both worlds. This would also make it trivial to add the "warn on conflict" back in because the entire objection seemed to be that the warning coupled with it being annoying to exclude all methods would discourage role use (an argument which penalizes the programmer who values safety and correctness, but then, Dominus doesn't like how we constantly encourage "use strict", either). While I do realize I've lost this argument, at least adding "includes" would make roles a tad more flexible and make some of my work easier if I get around to writing "MooseX::Role::Strict". This also shows what I *think* is a limitation in 'excludes'. All methods listed in a role should be explicitly added to the 'requires' list. The following is a runtime failure: #!/usr/bin/env perl package My::Role; use Moose::Role; sub foo { __PACKAGE__ } package Bar; use Moose; with 'My::Role' => { excludes => 'foo' }; print Bar->foo; # Can't locate object method "foo" via package "Bar" at role.pl line 13. Thoughts? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6