i've been watching this back-and-forth for over a week now.. if you
spent as much time writing code as you did bitching about the mootools
team you would probably have everything you need by now...

i simply cannot agree that the change to mootools 1.2 screwed anybody
over. I have converted most of the classes my company had written in
mootools 1.11 to mootools 1.2 and it wasn't that huge of a thing, it
was like maybe three small items per class.

you seem like a smart business man, and it appears you have found a
potential market.. why not provide the support you are requesting. not
sure how anyone would expect the 8 people who contribute to the core
library capable of doing that and writing all the code and having full
time jobs...

-gregory

On Oct 6, 6:39 am, MX3Design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For those of you that have followed recent threads I would like to
> clearly state that I recognise the amount of effort, energy and hard
> work that has gone into MT development and for the record I've stated
> this before both in the old forums and in this usergroup...
>
> From my perspective when 1.2 was released it was so disappointing. I
> had written many scripts in previous versions and developed complete
> applications based upon the framework. To suddenly find that all of
> this code would have to be rewritten in order to use the new build was
> a complete shock. It meant that my business could no longer continue
> to use MT as it's was simply not commercially viable to update and
> redevelop countless sites and scripts. (and no the backward
> compatibility layer didn't work!)
>
> There seems to be an unofficial consensus of opinion that many MT
> users are no more than 'script kiddies' looking for a quick cut &
> paste snippet. Whilst to some extent this may be the case there is
> also a large body of professional designers and developers who rely
> heavily upon pre-coding or outsourced development. Think about what
> knowledge the average designer needs: xhtml, xml, javascript, php,
> mySQL, actionscript, css etc etc it is very difficult to be an expert
> in all these fields and find time to develop which is why a framework
> provides such a useful platform, which brings me on to my main point.
>
> There must be a huge market for a framework which would simplify and
> give designers an easy method to integrate functions into their web
> applications. A framework which provides well documented examples, and
> one which makes it ridiculously easy to use. A framework which
> provides a high level of support and one which is helpful and
> welcoming. There's no shame in providing what people need, you're not
> going to lose face, quite the opposite. In my experience people really
> appreciate help, especially when they're approaching a new area of
> knowledge, we all started at the same place but it's all too easy to
> forget that.
>
> Why not charge a licence fee and give people what they both need and
> want? I would certainly pay (provided there was backward
> compatibility!) The business model that EllisLabs  and in particular
> Expression Engine have adopted works extremely well, they provide a
> good product, a user forum with excellent support, a repository and
> good documentation. Their users provide plugins, extensions and
> support to each other, it's a happy, helpful and unified community and
> the developers are making money...

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