I've noticed that most situations on the web tend to fix themselves. Since there will be a dichotomy in the support for the rant -- some people will agree, others will disagree -- on average, you'll have most people disagree or ignore that kind of ranting. On the other hand, an objective and thoughtful critique is what most people *would* listen to.
Oh and, of course, you can't please everybody. I'm, however, still learning to follow that. On Dec 12, 6:02 pm, nutron <[email protected]> wrote: > Was trying to head off the impending disaster... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, ibolmo (via Nabble) < > [email protected]<ml-user%[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > Why feed the troll? Just ignore the pest. > > > nutron wrote: > > > Hi Ranty, > > > > I'm just curious. What, exactly, is the purpose of this post? If it's > > just > > > so you can blow off steam then, well, I suppose it's served its purpose. > > But > > > ranting at us because you don't like the free software we provide you... > > > actually, wait, you aren't complaining about MooTools itself, just how we > > > > organize ourselves around it. Let me back up. > > > > But ranting about all the things we do BESIDES writing free code for you > > > isn't really all that helpful. We've enumerated at length the many > > reasons > > > we don't provide a forum on MooTools.net, not the least of which is we > > don't > > > want to maintain the software - we'd rather spend our time writing code > > and > > > fixing bugs. > > > > As for a plugin repository, it's something we're working on, but we don't > > > > have a ton of resources and that work goes as fast as it can given that > > it's > > > all donated time. > > > > You say the documentation is sub-par but not exactly what you mean by > > that. > > > Are there details that you wish were present that are not? Is it the > > > presentation of that documentation you don't care for? > > > > The thing is, MooTools is an open source project. That means that if you > > > don't like it, you can roll up your sleeves and help out. Something > > missing > > > in the docs? Well, jump into git and add more detail and then send us a > > pull > > > request to pick up your changes. Or maybe create your own site and start > > > writing tutorials. > > > > Don't like these forums? Well, there are alternatives (and here I'm > > thinking > > > ofhttp://mooforum.net/). But really forum software is forum software. > > If > > > you don't like the Google Groups interface, use nabble > > > (http://n2.nabble.com/MooTools-Users-f660466.html). > > > > But just ranting AT us instead of offering any sort of constructive input > > > > isn't likely to get you anything except posts back here blowing you off > > > (which, I hope you'll see, this is not). > > > > If your company has written 10,000 lines of MooTools code then you no > > doubt > > > have some experts there. Why not give something back to this project > > except > > > complaints? > > > > Aaron > > > > rantytheranter wrote: > > > > > Mootools developers if you are reading this, thanks for your time on > > > > building a solid framework, but it was a bad idea to remove the forum, > > I > > > > don't care what your reasons were, and yes I read the entire page > > > > containing your reasons. This part got me "feel free to switch to > > another > > > > framework that provides their users with an official bulletin-board > > like > > > > forum software", that was the jaw droppper. Unfortunately my company > > has > > > > blessed your framework and I am not "free" to switch frameworks, nor is > > it > > > > feasible to convert over 10,000 lines of code to JQuery. Which we > > already > > > > had to convert once do to your brilliant changes between 1.1 and 1.2. > > I > > > > wonder what other version change nightmares you may have in store for > > our > > > > department. Your documentation is sub-par, you have no plugin > > repository, > > > > and well I could go on. I know you will say that posts like this are > > part > > > > of the reason why the forum was shut down in the first place, but I > > would > > > > have never posted this until I noticed that. > > > > > In closing the organization of this project is a joke, and I stress > > just > > > > the organization. > > > > ----- > > > The MooTools Tutorial: http://www.mootorial.comwww.mootorial.com > > > Clientcide: http://www.clientcide.comwww.clientcide.com > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > >http://n2.nabble.com/rant-tp1649808p1649881.html > > > Sent from the MooTools Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > View message @http://n2.nabble.com/rant-tp1649808p1650514.html > > To start a new topic under MooTools Users, email > > [email protected]<ml-node%[email protected]> > > To unsubscribe from MooTools Users, click here< (link removed) >. > > ----- > The MooTools Tutorial: http://www.mootorial.comwww.mootorial.com > Clientcide: http://www.clientcide.comwww.clientcide.com > -- > View this message in context:http://n2.nabble.com/rant-tp1649808p1650563.html > Sent from the MooTools Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
