I think the demos could be more like the learning place, with working
code examples, lots of comments and info. They can do that. Also I
think since the MooTools release after we updated the demos, there are
some links to the demos, see
http://mootools.net/docs/more/Drag/Drag.Move for example.

However we don't have demos for everything and that's something I
would really like to have. Especially for Elements, Fx, Request, the
basic stuff.
I think we didn't really have enough of this. However creating demos
is relatively easy, just need some time for it to do it. Creating new
demos is a great and easy way to contribute though, which is really
appreciated. Demos and Docs are really a great way to start
contributing!

https://github.com/mootools/mootools-demos/


On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Rolf -nl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Only at first the current docs might be difficult to understand. With
> difficult I mean someone with a non-programming/experience background,
> but there are in fact pretty good, focussed and easy to use.
>
> I think user demos could be stored at jsfiddle and then somewhere on
> the page, next to the demos added by the dev team there could be links
> to user created demos (that could either end up as an official demo or
> just sit there for a while).
> So like, point for help to the channels like mailing list, irc perhaps
> and then when there are questions about usage of some method others
> can provide a small demo and put it up with some feature to also
> automatically notify the poster (or easier, want to keep track, use
> the mailing list). The demo link on mootools/docs could be combined
> with the original question if this would be a good 'addition'
>
> I think comments are nice but yes it would need good moderation and
> who has the time for that? I've got stuff from the php comments as
> well, great useful stuff, but there's indeed also outdated stuff, let
> alone running discussions.. those should be out of the comments if
> there were any.
>
> ...I'm just thinking out loud
>
> On May 22, 3:50 pm, fakedarren <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This is something we (I) want to improve on, sure.
>>
>> http://mootools.fakedarren.com/docs/Element/Element/
>>
>> One of the biggest requests from our 
>> survey<http://mootools.net/blog/2010/12/05/mootools-survey/>was that people 
>> would like to see inline demos, so this integrates the demo
>> runner <http://mootools.net/demos/> too.
>>
>> I've not really gone into this too much; I am using XSL to transform the
>> current markdown docs we have, into other forms, because I think we're
>> actually pretty happy with the simplicity of using markdown for our docs. We
>> could add more structure to our markdown but I doubt we would be able to
>> convince everyone to move into another format.
>>
>> But the general thought behind it is that if you were to go to a page like
>> Fx.Tween <http://mootools.fakedarren.com/docs/Fx/Fx.Tween> you get a nice
>> summary of the methods available, and you than then delve in further to the
>> methods that interest you, and with demos we can make it easier to scan a
>> class or module, and give more detail for specifics. Sometimes some of the
>> details get lost because there is too much information on any one page.
>>
>> The git repository can be found 
>> here<https://github.com/fakedarren/mootools-docs>
>> .
>>
>> With regards to comments.....this has been discussed endlessly before. It
>> sounds great but the reality is not as rosy as it seems. It would need
>> heavily moderating to be of real use; you could have a system whereby
>> comments only exist for a couple of weeks; if the comment is really
>> insightful, we adjust the documentation accordingly. But just look at the
>> PHP documentation; yes there is some great stuff in the user comments. There
>> is also some terrible stuff in there.
>>
>> But as arian says we already have the ability for any and all users to
>> comment and / or adjust our documentation. It's all freely available on
>> github <https://github.com/mootools/mootools-core/tree/master/Docs>. We
>> welcome all and any feedback.
>>
>> This is something that I wish to improve on - free time has been an issue
>> lately - so this thread is of great interest to me, keep the comments
>> coming!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Darren

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