I guess my problem is I am trying to learn too much at once, php, ruby, 
javascript. I am going to just stick with JS for now and dig deep and stay 
there.

Thanks so much for all the advice, I am glad to be in this group => really!

On Monday, May 14, 2012 7:26:37 AM UTC-4, pixel67 wrote:
>
> Thanks Rolf =]
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2012 5:55:57 AM UTC-4, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
>>
>> JavaScript is super hot now, So I suggest you start learning node.js and 
>> CoffeeScript as well haha. Node.js.
>>
>> Seriously though there's still more than enough demand for static 
>> languages. I never picked up Ruby, Python only in tiny bits (which is 
>> sometimes useful on mac or for specific programs that can read macros 
>> written in Python), I still use PHP and alot, like a gazillion companies. I 
>> always had a weak spot for 37signals (who invented Ruby), if I was to learn 
>> a server side language now I would pick up Ruby I guess over PHP just for 
>> fun.
>>
>> As far as JS you can quickly read some "javascript basics" or "javascrip 
>> in 24 hours" or "javascript for dummies" books.. or whatever they are 
>> called. Aaron's book for the old mootools could be considered deprecated, 
>> but it's still worth a read to get a feel of Moo syntax. Keeto's book is 
>> great, but more in depth and difficult. Check it anyway. I have not read 
>> the book by Garrick and Jacob, but I'm sure it's a good read. It's all Moo 
>> 1.2 so deprecated code, but you can easily make the switch to the latest 
>> version. Can't comment on jQuery! There's tons of jQuery stuff (also "for 
>> dummies" books), so I guess it wouldn't hurt to check it out as well, after 
>> you know some more about JS or Moo. Untill then you can still use jquery 
>> plug n play stuff.
>>
>> Oh btw- books might be outdated, then just grab the pdf if you want to 
>> read on screen. Books are usually better then short tutorials or snippets 
>> of code if you're starting out with something imho and you'll get a better 
>> overall feel of a language.
>>
>> PS > and did we mention already to check the source code of everything?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 11, 2012 11:35:18 AM UTC+2, pixel67 wrote:
>>>
>>> Dimitar,
>>>
>>> I am on the channel now but just a blank screen ( I will look into it )
>>> In your opinion what is a good plan , I'm all over the place
>>> learning PHP, JavaScript, Ruby, Python and a little moo and JQ ( I think 
>>> learning JS first is best? )
>>> Do I just stick with JS and pick away at moo or does learning JQ help 
>>> with moo ?
>>>
>>> Thanks again who said there's no help for beginners ? =]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 11, 2012 5:21:04 AM UTC-4, Dimitar Christoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/05/2012 10:06, pixel67 wrote: 
>>>> > Dimitar, 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Thanks for the info, I have to ask though what is up with the 
>>>> > irc.freenode, I was on the one for node.js and didn't get any 
>>>> responses 
>>>> > not sure if I know how to use it? 
>>>> > I would like to really see more people using moo, but it is tough 
>>>> going 
>>>> > at first and maybe when I get up to speed a little more I will post 
>>>> > links to * beginner tutorials * I really want to be a part of this 
>>>> > community, I love javascript and moo is in line with that. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I got Arrons book, after I finish the Modern JavaScript Develop and 
>>>> > Design by Larry Ullman I will start in on that and I found this 
>>>> > http://mrpaolo.github.com/mootools30days/ 
>>>> > some of the links are dead on the sites that were referenced to learn 
>>>> moo.:( 
>>>> > 
>>>>
>>>> IRc = internet relay chat -> a real time chat room where ppl talk 
>>>> (async 
>>>> at times) about mootools or other stuff that matters. 
>>>>
>>>> you need an IRC client like mIRC or BitchX or Colloquy for mac etc - 
>>>> many clients. 
>>>>
>>>> freenode has nothing to do with node.js - though there probably is a 
>>>> nodejs channel on there. 
>>>>
>>>> You connect to irc.freenode.net and then /join #mootools 
>>>>
>>>> If you don't get a reply immediately, don't worry, people reply when 
>>>> they return. 
>>>>
>>>> Aarons book is awesome. When you read that, there's also Garrick's and 
>>>> Keetos books to consider. 
>>>>
>>>> For tutorials, http://stackoverflow.com/tags/mootools/info is more or 
>>>> less up-to date. 
>>>>
>>>> http://mrpaolo.github.com/mootools30days/ is interesting and new to 
>>>> me, 
>>>> seems it is being collated from the Wayback Machine, if you look at 
>>>> https://github.com/mrpaolo/mootools30days/ it has been updated as 
>>>> recently as 2 months ago. 
>>>>
>>>> Some of the practices are probably out of date or incomplete but it 
>>>> certainly can't hurt to read it. 
>>>>
>>>> have fun. 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dimitar Christoff 
>>>>
>>>> "JavaScript is to JAVA what hamster is to ham" 
>>>> http://fragged.org/ | @D_mitar | https://github.com/DimitarChristoff 
>>>>
>>>

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