I guess my problem is I am trying to learn too much at once, php, ruby, javascript. I am going to just stick with JS for now and dig deep and stay there.
Thanks so much for all the advice, I am glad to be in this group => really! On Monday, May 14, 2012 7:26:37 AM UTC-4, pixel67 wrote: > > Thanks Rolf =] > > On Monday, May 14, 2012 5:55:57 AM UTC-4, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote: >> >> JavaScript is super hot now, So I suggest you start learning node.js and >> CoffeeScript as well haha. Node.js. >> >> Seriously though there's still more than enough demand for static >> languages. I never picked up Ruby, Python only in tiny bits (which is >> sometimes useful on mac or for specific programs that can read macros >> written in Python), I still use PHP and alot, like a gazillion companies. I >> always had a weak spot for 37signals (who invented Ruby), if I was to learn >> a server side language now I would pick up Ruby I guess over PHP just for >> fun. >> >> As far as JS you can quickly read some "javascript basics" or "javascrip >> in 24 hours" or "javascript for dummies" books.. or whatever they are >> called. Aaron's book for the old mootools could be considered deprecated, >> but it's still worth a read to get a feel of Moo syntax. Keeto's book is >> great, but more in depth and difficult. Check it anyway. I have not read >> the book by Garrick and Jacob, but I'm sure it's a good read. It's all Moo >> 1.2 so deprecated code, but you can easily make the switch to the latest >> version. Can't comment on jQuery! There's tons of jQuery stuff (also "for >> dummies" books), so I guess it wouldn't hurt to check it out as well, after >> you know some more about JS or Moo. Untill then you can still use jquery >> plug n play stuff. >> >> Oh btw- books might be outdated, then just grab the pdf if you want to >> read on screen. Books are usually better then short tutorials or snippets >> of code if you're starting out with something imho and you'll get a better >> overall feel of a language. >> >> PS > and did we mention already to check the source code of everything? >> >> >> >> On Friday, May 11, 2012 11:35:18 AM UTC+2, pixel67 wrote: >>> >>> Dimitar, >>> >>> I am on the channel now but just a blank screen ( I will look into it ) >>> In your opinion what is a good plan , I'm all over the place >>> learning PHP, JavaScript, Ruby, Python and a little moo and JQ ( I think >>> learning JS first is best? ) >>> Do I just stick with JS and pick away at moo or does learning JQ help >>> with moo ? >>> >>> Thanks again who said there's no help for beginners ? =] >>> >>> >>> On Friday, May 11, 2012 5:21:04 AM UTC-4, Dimitar Christoff wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/05/2012 10:06, pixel67 wrote: >>>> > Dimitar, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for the info, I have to ask though what is up with the >>>> > irc.freenode, I was on the one for node.js and didn't get any >>>> responses >>>> > not sure if I know how to use it? >>>> > I would like to really see more people using moo, but it is tough >>>> going >>>> > at first and maybe when I get up to speed a little more I will post >>>> > links to * beginner tutorials * I really want to be a part of this >>>> > community, I love javascript and moo is in line with that. >>>> > >>>> > I got Arrons book, after I finish the Modern JavaScript Develop and >>>> > Design by Larry Ullman I will start in on that and I found this >>>> > http://mrpaolo.github.com/mootools30days/ >>>> > some of the links are dead on the sites that were referenced to learn >>>> moo.:( >>>> > >>>> >>>> IRc = internet relay chat -> a real time chat room where ppl talk >>>> (async >>>> at times) about mootools or other stuff that matters. >>>> >>>> you need an IRC client like mIRC or BitchX or Colloquy for mac etc - >>>> many clients. >>>> >>>> freenode has nothing to do with node.js - though there probably is a >>>> nodejs channel on there. >>>> >>>> You connect to irc.freenode.net and then /join #mootools >>>> >>>> If you don't get a reply immediately, don't worry, people reply when >>>> they return. >>>> >>>> Aarons book is awesome. When you read that, there's also Garrick's and >>>> Keetos books to consider. >>>> >>>> For tutorials, http://stackoverflow.com/tags/mootools/info is more or >>>> less up-to date. >>>> >>>> http://mrpaolo.github.com/mootools30days/ is interesting and new to >>>> me, >>>> seems it is being collated from the Wayback Machine, if you look at >>>> https://github.com/mrpaolo/mootools30days/ it has been updated as >>>> recently as 2 months ago. >>>> >>>> Some of the practices are probably out of date or incomplete but it >>>> certainly can't hurt to read it. >>>> >>>> have fun. >>>> -- >>>> Dimitar Christoff >>>> >>>> "JavaScript is to JAVA what hamster is to ham" >>>> http://fragged.org/ | @D_mitar | https://github.com/DimitarChristoff >>>> >>>