John, This is why myself and many others have been saying that the eBay feedback system is "broken" for a long time now. It's not just the problem of unfair retaliation being left on whistle-blowers, it's the weight of sheer numbers:
If you have 6302 positive feedbacks and 3 negatives... or even 40 negatives... when you do the calculation that amount to a feedback that is 99.996 positive -- and eBay rounds up to only 2 digits after the decimal point -- so the seller's rating gets rounded up to 100% I think a seller with 6302 positive feedbacks would have to get, like 65 negatives feedbacks before they would show a rating of 99.99% positive. We have given this whole feedback problem serious thought over at www.MoviePosterBid.com. And we have developed a system to prevent this sort of thing from happening, which will become apparent as more people buy and sell there and feedback is built up. Of course, even now we have an active feedback dispute resolution program and will not tolerate or allow unfair retaliatory feedback -- or allow anyone to "buy" their way out of justified negative feedback. We're going to keep feedback a viable and reliable measure of performance for both buyers and sellers. Ah swears on it by the rich, red soil of Tara, ah does... -- JR ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 16:33 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Link to Halloween Lobby Cards > JR and all > You mentioned the sellers impressive feedback record. I just had a look at > the detail - 3 members have left a negative and 6 netrals in the last 6 > months. How does that convert to the 100% that is displayed?? > Incidentally, I have never come across any Australian lobby cards for > Halloween. > Regards > John > > > JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA > PO Box 92 > Palm Beach > Qld 4221 > Australia > WEBSITE: > www.moviemem.com > > eBay Userid: johnwr > > All you need to know about Australian Posters...... > http://www.moviemem.com/about.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JRS MoviePosterBid.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Link to Halloween Lobby Cards > > > > Scott, > > > > Thanks for the link -- and from the list owner, no less. I guess the rest > > of you can now assume it is OK to post links to auctions under discussion > > on MoPo. Thank God. > > > > ...yes, as I understand it, this is the auction that caused some fuss... > > Please note that in the following discussion there are no accusations > > being made, there is no name-calling, and there are no personal names > > being cited. The only names mentioned are those public "user names" > > available to anyone to view by going to the public auction on the public > > eBay auction venue, thus making the publication of such "user names" and > > discussion of said public auction non-libelous by current legal > > definitions. This message is being posted to public forums and is the sole > > responsibility of the sender. > > > > As to the lobby card auction in question... which can be seen at: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2322&item=382717061 > > 8 > > > > ...hmmm... I gotta say, there simply isn't much too go on in either the > > description or the small, low-resolution picture. A long-time expert in > > the field has stated he has never seen these before. On the other hand, > > one Australian dealer apparently has seen them. Question for the > > Australian dealer: Are you sure what you saw were genuine Aussie cards > > properly issued... or could they be repros which have made their way to > > your shores? If the Australian dealer feels the cards they have seen are > > authentic, is it possible the auction above is actually for an Australian > > set? The seller does not say in the description that these are U.S. lobby > > cards. > > > > As for the idea of these cards having NSS numbers when it is known that > > NSS did not print paper on this title... well, the auction does not state > > the NSS numbers, it merely says they were "printed by National Screen > > Service". This statement alone is enough to question the authenticity of > > these cards in itself... however, there is another aspect to this > > statement -- and this is hard to believe folks... > > > > I checked out this seller's other auctions. I looked at a set of LORD OF > > THE RINGS posters he is offering at > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2322&item=382717061 > > 8 > > > > and -- you'll never guess -- this is what he says about the LORD OF THE > > RINGS posters: > > > > "4 DIFFERENT ORIGINAL LORD OF THE RINGS ---- . EACH POSTER MEASURES 27 X > > 40 . EACH POSTER IS IN MINT CONDITION , ROLLED AND SINGLE SIDED .THESE > > POSTERS ARE NOT REPROS OR REPRINTS , THEY ARE ORIGINAL THEATRICAL ONE > > SHEET MOVIE POSTERS PRINTED BY NATIONAL SCREEN SERVICE . " > > > > ... of course, it is documented fact that National Screen Service stopped > > printing posters a long time ago... so the statement in this LORD OF THE > > RINGS auction is clearly, um, shall we call in "highly inaccurate and > > indicative of a seller who doesn't really know what he is talking about"? > > > > I found the same statement on the other auctions for very recent movie > > posters being auctioned by this same seller that I looked at, although I > > did not look at them all as there are several hundred currently being > > offered. > > > > Maybe this seller just slaps "printed by National Screen Service" on ALL > > of his listings, regardless of the facts? > > > > So, putting the "printed by National Screen Service" statement in the > > lobby card auction doesn't help us with determining the authenticity of > > the Lobby Cards In Question, but it sure does bring up some additional > > questions about the seller's overall knowledge and/or veracity in how he > > describes his posters. And yet this seller has 6,299 feedbacks on eBay, > > all of them 100% positive. What a world... > > > > Personally, I'd be inclined to listen to the what the long-time, > > recognized experts in the field have to say regarding these kind of > > auction items. > > > > -- JR > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 14:12 > > Subject: [MOPO] Link to Halloween Lobby Cards > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=198&item=3824298782 > > &r > > > d=1&ssPageName=WD1V > > > > > > (Item Number 3824298782 if the link doesn't work.) > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is the set in question. > > > > > > Scott > > > MoPo List Owner > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
