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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Douglass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Eugene Hughes & Joe DePrenda On A Rippoff Customer Spree!?!?!?
WARNING to MOPO members: The "F" word is imbedded in the message below, but it's necessary to the body of this post. An update on the Eugene Hughes situation: I received an e mail from Eugene today with a UPS tracking number for my posters, which were apparently shipped today. Like many of you, I have been waiting a long time; I sent Eugene 10 posters back in early April, got 8 of them back a couple of months ago, and the final 2 are being sent as per above. Hopefully, they'll be here by next week...... Eugene also included a link in his email, http://linenback.com/DudeWhereAreMyFuckingPosters.html. As you can probably tell by the url, there are some R-rated (and very heated) statements in Eugene's message, and it's evident our boy's been under a lot of stress....a LOT of stress..... I have always personally liked Eugene immensely, and I am truly puzzled by this whole episode. Like Sue, I didn't see this one coming at all. While Eugene could be maddeningly slow at times, (from biting off more work than he could chew, I suspect), I never took him for a thief, and still don't. DePrenda & Hernandez were upfront, proven rip-off artists. Eugene's situation is just...bizarre. I don't claim to understand what's going on, but I just hope this is an indication that there may be light at the end of the tunnel. I will let the group know when I receive the posters. For those who wish to contact Eugene, his return address from his e-mail to me is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Douglass Susan Heim wrote:
Dear Mike and all,
You have a very valid point. Unfortunately there is often other issues to address with these kind of people. The likes of people like Joe DePrenda and Joe Hernandez is an awful thing, but even more awful to me are customers that continue to support them even after it has been made very public that they are ripping people off. There were numerous posts from the victims and discussions about Joe Deprenda's activities, yet I watched many members continue to bid and buy his lower priced items while he was on ebay. It was known by many that Joe Hernandez had been stealing from people for years, yet many greedy dealers and high end collectors continued to buy material from him at very low prices, too low to be a normal sale, and obviously stolen material. I mean when somebody, who is very knowledgeable in the hobby, offers you a poster for $200 when it goes in auction for $2000 that might be an indicator that not all is kosher. Joe was a linenbacker, not a poster dealer, but he always had posters to sell. I have a friend of mine who gave Joe a very valuable 1930's cartoon poster that Joe sold to another collector and pocketed the money. As for Eugene, I am baffled, because I would have never seen it coming. Unfortunately, though, I have customers who are in the same boat as you, having sent him material months ago and were promised it was being returned months ago. I can't imagine why the material hasn't been returned unless it no longer exists. One of my customers asked months ago for his items to be returned in whatever state they were in, no questions asked, just return them. That was promised and still no posters. The last I heard from Eugene was when he called me to ask if I wanted to buy his T-shirt business. That was months ago. There was another linenbacker who was actually trained by Eugene, Ray Bell. I see his auctions on ebay now and again, perhaps he knows how to contact Eugene. Good luck.
Sue Heim www.hollywoodposterframes.com <http://www.hollywoodposterframes.com> (800) 463-2994
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*From:* Mike Laskowsky <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:47 PM *Subject:* [MOPO] Eugene Hughes & Joe DePrenda On A Rippoff Customer Spree!?!?!?
It seems to me, that there are some real bad things happening to good people with good faith in these, "thought to be professionals", in this industry that are making it bad for all. Since last May, Eugene Hughes does touch base on occasion to say my posters are ready, but I still have not received them. Even gave him my UPS account to ship them back at my expense, but still no posters. These are five expensive posters from the 50's including Presley, "Roustabout", Astaire, "Three Little Words", Monroe and others. I have received a number of e-mails from others that are, or still are having this same problem with Hughes. Now we have another to beware of. I am starting legal procedures to get my posters back, or have him charged with fraud and theft. A real shame!!!!, but they make their own choices, don't they???
All I can say to those who are being ripped off like me and these others, is to file reports against them. Let it be known what and who is doing these terrible things to honest paying customers. If you can not hire lawyers, you can contact their local better business bureau's as well as their state attorneys office to file complaints against them for fraud and theft.
If anyone is a friend of Hughes and has information, like a phone number, since he disconnected his others, or if he is trying international listings again please let it be known. You are only helping him to continue this dishonest practice which will continue and others will also take a great loss to his gain. I have been told that he is not a thief by one fellow MOPO member, but Hughes is proving you wrong.
HUGHES NEEDS TO CORRECT HIS WRONGS AND SHIP BACK THE POSTERS THAT BELONG TO OTHERS!!!
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