Hello All,
I just read the long message that Eugene put out. First of
all, I think he should reread my post. I was even talking about him with the
poster. In fact, I said that I was completely surprised to even hear any
problems associated with him. I mentioned that if one were looking for him, they
might try to contact Ray Bell as he knew Eugene well. So, if you are out there
Eugene, don't include me with your "lying a-hole" list. It bears repeating
though, that if one is going to take someone's money, it is incumbent
on one to deliver the product as promised.
Sue Heim
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:07
AM
Subject: [MOPO] [Style-b List] Re: Eugene
Hughes
Talk about "not showing remorse"... at the end of his explanation page,
Eugene says:
"I have had family problems to deal with and they take priority. Deal
with it."
I'm sure we are all sorry to hear it. But we ALL have family problems.
Yes, many of us have had recent deaths in the family as a lot of us have
parents and other relatives who are now very old. But we maintain our
professionalism. If we can't, we STOP TAKING ORDERS and return the work we
can't do with an apology to our customers. We don't continue to bite off more
than we can chew. We don't pretend that it's OK to screw people just because
we're having problems.
If Eugene couldn't do the work -- for whatever reason -- why didn't he
just send the posters back to the people who asked him to? How much time and
effort would that have taken? He probably couldn't return their money
right away, but at least they would have had their posters back. That
alone sure would have eased people's minds and PREVENTED all of this
public discussion and SAVED Eugene's reputation, which is now completely
shot. And he shot it himself. His lame attempts to blame other people for the
results of his own auctions is just pitiful.
Causing other people problems just because you have problems is NOT
acceptable behavior. And Eugene has played this sympathy card far too often
and for far too long now for it to have any real meaning at this point.
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004
0:52
Subject: [Style-b List] Re: [MOPO]
Eugene Hughes & Joe DePrenda On A Rippoff Customer Spree!?!?!?
WARNING to MOPO members: The "F" word is imbedded in the
message below,
but it's necessary to the body of this post.
An update
on the Eugene Hughes situation:
I received an e mail from Eugene today
with a UPS tracking number for my
posters, which were apparently shipped
today. Like many of you, I have
been waiting a long time; I sent Eugene
10 posters back in early April,
got 8 of them back a couple of months
ago, and the final 2 are being
sent as per above. Hopefully, they'll be
here by next week......
Eugene also included a
link in his email,
http://linenback.com/DudeWhereAreMyFuckingPosters.html.
As you can
probably tell by the url, there are some R-rated (and very
heated)
statements in Eugene's message, and it's evident our boy's been
under a
lot of stress....a LOT of
stress.....
I have always personally liked
Eugene immensely, and I am truly
puzzled by this whole episode. Like
Sue, I didn't see this one coming at
all. While Eugene could be
maddeningly slow at times, (from biting off
more work than he could
chew, I suspect), I never took him for a thief,
and still don't.
DePrenda & Hernandez were upfront, proven rip-off
artists. Eugene's
situation is just...bizarre. I don't claim to
understand what's going
on, but I just hope this is an indication that
there may be light at the
end of the tunnel. I will let the group know
when I receive the
posters.
For those who wish to contact Eugene,
his return address from his
e-mail to me is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greg
Douglass
Susan Heim wrote:
> Dear Mike and all,
>
> You have a very valid point.
Unfortunately there is often other
> issues to address with these
kind of people. The likes of people like
> Joe DePrenda and Joe
Hernandez is an awful thing, but even more awful
> to me are
customers that continue to support them even after it has
> been made
very public that they are ripping people off. There were
> numerous
posts from the victims and discussions about Joe Deprenda's
>
activities, yet I watched many members continue to bid and buy his
>
lower priced items while he was on ebay. It was known by many that
> Joe Hernandez had been stealing from people for years, yet many
greedy
> dealers and high end collectors continued to buy material
from him at
> very low prices, too low to be a normal sale, and
obviously stolen
> material. I mean when somebody, who is very
knowledgeable in the
> hobby, offers you a poster for $200 when
it goes in auction for $2000
> that might be an indicator that not
all is kosher. Joe was a
> linenbacker, not a poster dealer, but he
always had posters to sell. I
> have a friend of mine who gave Joe a
very valuable 1930's cartoon
> poster that Joe sold to another
collector and pocketed the money. As
> for Eugene, I am baffled,
because I would have never seen it coming.
> Unfortunately, though, I
have customers who are in the same boat as
> you, having sent him
material months ago and were promised it was
> being returned months
ago. I can't imagine why the material hasn't
> been returned unless
it no longer exists. One of my customers asked
> months ago for his
items to be returned in whatever state they were
> in, no questions
asked, just return them. That was promised and still
> no posters.
The last I heard from Eugene was when he called me to ask
> if I
wanted to buy his T-shirt business. That was months ago. There
> was
another linenbacker who was actually trained by Eugene, Ray Bell.
> I
see his auctions on ebay now and again, perhaps he knows how to
>
contact Eugene. Good luck.
>
> Sue Heim
> www.hollywoodposterframes.com
<http://www.hollywoodposterframes.com>
>
(800) 463-2994
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message
-----
>
> *From:* Mike Laskowsky <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:47 PM
>
*Subject:* [MOPO] Eugene Hughes & Joe DePrenda On A
Rippoff
> Customer
Spree!?!?!?
>
> It seems to me, that
there are some real bad things happening to
>
good people with good faith in these, "thought to
be
> professionals", in this industry that are
making it bad for all.
> Since last May,
Eugene Hughes does touch base on occasion to
say
> my posters are ready, but I still have
not received them. Even
> gave him my UPS
account to ship them back at my expense, but
still
> no posters. These are five expensive
posters from the 50's
> including Presley,
"Roustabout", Astaire, "Three Little Words",
>
Monroe and others. I have received a number of e-mails from
others
> that are, or still are having this
same problem with Hughes. Now
> we have
another to beware of. I am starting legal procedures
to
> get my posters back, or have him charged
with fraud and theft. A
> real shame!!!!, but
they make their own choices, don't
they???
>
> All I can say to those who are being ripped
off like me and these
> others, is to file
reports against them. Let it be known what
and
> who is doing these terrible things to
honest paying customers. If
> you can not hire
lawyers, you can contact their local better
>
business bureau's as well as their state attorneys office to
file
> complaints against them for fraud and
theft.
>
> If anyone is a friend of Hughes and has
information, like a phone
> number, since he
disconnected his others, or if he is trying
>
international listings again please let it be known. You are
only
> helping him to continue this dishonest
practice which will
> continue and others will
also take a great loss to his gain. I
> have
been told that he is not a thief by one fellow MOPO
member,
> but Hughes is proving you
wrong.
>
> HUGHES NEEDS TO CORRECT HIS WRONGS AND SHIP
BACK THE POSTERS THAT
> BELONG TO
OTHERS!!!
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Do you Yahoo!?
> Visit the MoPo Mailing List
Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>
>
___________________________________________________________________
>
>
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing
List
>
> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF
MOPO-L
>
> The author of this message is
solely responsible for its content.
>
>
Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
>
<http://www.yahoo.com>
>
>
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>
>
___________________________________________________________________
>
>
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>
> Send a message
addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>
> The author
of this message is solely responsible for its
content.
>
------------------------ Yahoo!
Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
$9.95 domain names from
Yahoo!. Register anything.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/YRyplB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->
Have you participated in Style-b's
COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS 5
QUESTION REFERENDUM?
Please vote today...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/style-b-list/polls
For
[Style-b List] discussion community
membership/enrollment
information...
log onto the [Style-b List] web-site at...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/style-b-list
The
views expressed in this
communication do not
necessarily reflect those
of the author,
list owner, or any other person...
whether living or
dead.
.
Yahoo! Groups
Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go
to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Style-b-list/
<*>
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<*>
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
___________________________________________________________________
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
The author of this message is solely responsible for its
content.
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
___________________________________________________________________
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
|
