Dear Ed and all,
   To a certain degree that would be true, but remember posters get that "wave" in them in the frame  for several reasons, all of which would apply to a linenbacked posters also. For instance, when the humidity changes outside, posters swell up in the frame and can buckle a bit on their own accord, or if the frame hasn't been overbuilt to accommodate some "breathing" room, the side of the poster hits the inside wall of the frame and has nowhere to go but to buckle in the middle.  With a linenbacked poster, if it hasn't been framed properly, it can sag in the frame and cause that rippling. Many times it is just because people hung the frame with one nail instead of two nails. Placing your hook or nails about 3" in from each side of the frame can make a world of difference.
 
    Linenbacking old vintage posters if very different than linenbacking a newer current poster. Most newer current posters will never realize the value that many of the older vintage posters will. Linenbacking is a costly process and if you were just trying to keep the poster flat, then I'm all for drymounting newer posters. It is much cheaper and, if done properly, is reversible. As I said previously, linenbacking is just another "mounting" process. It is just the acceptable form for collectable posters, but I know as a conservation framer, that a poster drymounted on acid free board with acid free waterbased glue will not dimish the paper integrity over time. To be honest, it is exactly how the linenbackers "paperback" heavy stock items now. They glue the poster to a piece of archival paper that is just under 1/8" thick.
 
 I have customers that send me movie posters to "mount" before I frame them. I charge $15 and I usually include touch up on fold lines.  That same poster paperbacked would cost about $150 and up with most of the linenbackers in the country. We are using virtually the same materials. I just use a thicker backing material for extra sturdiness. In fact, many of the linenbackers aren't even using an archival product for the glue or paste. I use a product called good glue that is acid free and water soluable, which means it is easily reversible if and when that poster ever becomes valuable. I know this is not the accepted way in the hobby, but I have debated this for years. It really is just a matter of semantics. Linenbackers call it paperbacking and framers call it "mounting".  However, it does have to be archival materials. Either way, the poster's life is the same.  The fact is that paperbacking is cheaper than linenbacking, the materials are cheaper to buy and paperbacking is an easier mount. But most linenbackers charge the same whether you are linenbacking or paperbacking. As always, you have to be comparing like materials. Last year, right here on MoPo, I talked about linenbackers that still use 77 spray to mount posters to the fabric. 77 spray is loaded with acid and very toxic and can degrade paper over time. It also can't be reversed with water. A poster that has been spray glued to fabric or a board has to be removed with acetone or bestine, very detrimental to paper. So, remember not all linenbacking jobs are created equal. Do you homework.
 
     The bottom line for me is that I would never advise anyone to linenback a rolled current movie poster. I think it is a waste of money.  We don't really know what the value of double sided versus single sided posters will be in the future. We can speculate, but nothing is impossible. For that reason, if the poster was in my own collection, I wouldn't mount it to anything.  Now, a folded current poster is another story. A good linenbacker can pull the folds out of the poster and restore the fold lines so that they are flush with the rest of the poster and almost disappear. Sylvia at Precision Restoration, who I use, is one of the best linenbacker/restorers I have ever used and I have used many of them. I have never seen anyone better on restoring heavy stock items that Sylvia and many of my customers right here on the MoPo group will attest to that. I have had customers send me inserts or half sheets in pieces and when she is finished with them you can't see a seam. That's amazing to me.
   Part of being a poster collector is acknowledging the imperfections. For me, that adds to the authenticity of it's originality. I think we've gone a little linenbacking crazy in our hobby.  There are certain instances where linenbacking is necessary and desirable but for many posters, what's wrong with just framing it as is?  Save the money to buy another poster for your collection!
 
Sue Heim
(800) 463-2994
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Flood
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO]

Wouldn't linenbacking though solve the problem of a poster "buckling" or getting waves when framed?  This is why I would linenback a poster.  To have it look nice and hung w/ a musuem mount in the frame.



Susan Heim wrote:
Hi Mindy,
 
   I have linenbacked some double sided posters, but that was because the customer decided on that. My feeling is that the only reason to linenback a poster is that the poster itself has damage that you can't live with. Spending the money to linenback a current double sided poster doesn't seem monetarily sound since you could probably go out and buy the same poster in excellent condition for less than linenbacking would cost you. The optimum way to collect and preserve is without linenbacking. If linenbacking is done, as with older vintage posters, it can sometimes add to the value of the poster because it makes the poster "look" better. However, this is a debate in our hobby that has yet to be settled. Some people like to linenback and some never linenback. I guess since there are buyers for both situations, to this point, it hasn't created a major problem.
 
    I frame double sided posters on a daily basis and most of my studio accounts drymount them before framing, because they don't really care about collectability. If for some reason one of those doublesided posters became worth a fortune in years to come, the poster could be "unmounted" and then it would have to be linenbacked because the back side of the poster would have glue residue on it. But to me, there would have to be a good reason to spend the money to linenback a double sided poster today.
 
Sue Heim
(800) 463-2994
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:22 PM
Subject: [MOPO]

Does anyone have an opinion on whether it is okay to linen back a DOUBLE SIDED image poster?   Is the LINEN BACKING a value added component or is it considered defacing the backward, backside image? Thanks - Mindy

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