Randal, you said :  ".  In fact, one could argue that heritage actually
discourages
participation through ebay, due to the additional 5% bp they tack on to
ebay-based winning bids".

Please clarify, because I just won an item from Heritage via eBay proxy bid
and was charged only 15% BP?

Zeev


----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage Auction


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> At 2:09 AM -0600 3/19/05, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >..OR... one could bid on all the other auctions out there that have
> >NO BUYER'S PREMIUM and save 15% or 20% or whatever...
>
> The posters I'm looking for are rarely available elsewhere on ebay or
> mopobid.  And when they do occasionally appear, more often than not
> the starting bids are more than I have paid with heritage, even
> including the bp.  An auction with an advanced starting bid isn't an
> auction, it's just a For Sale ad.  Which is fine, as long as everyone
> understands that.  But since posters have no true intrinsic value,
> like many I prefer bidding in a true auction, thereby knowing that
> there's at least one other person out there who's willing to pay
> (nearly) as much as I am.  Or often, more.
>
> Hershenson is the only ebayer to consistently offer the high-end 50s
> sci-fi material that I covet as true auctions, i.e. with starting
> bids well below the current generally accepted value of each piece.
> And no one does this on mopobid, as far as I can tell.  From my
> perspective, the sellers have to be there FIRST, with great stuff at
> low opening bids, or the buyers will not show up or bid in
> significant numbers.
>
> And as far as hershenson vs heritage goes, in my experience, prices
> realized have been pretty much a draw, even factoring in the heritage
> bp.  For example, I picked up one heritage poster two days ago for
> $375 at the hammer, so, $431.25 with bp.  The same poster, in very
> similar backed condition, is at $406 now in the current hershenson
> auction, with 3 days to go.  It will almost certainly close for
> substantially more than I paid, bp or no bp.   Or consider Cat
> People.  Bruce got $12100 for one last December.  Condition issues
> aside, the heritage onesheet went for $10000, or $11500 with bp.  The
> presence or absence of a bp should be a minor consideration for the
> buyer, a simple calculation to do, and not a matter of national
> security or moral outrage.
>
> >big-buck, high-quality, high-end sellers). For some reason Heritage
> >seems to be able to operate on a completely different playing field
> >using a completely different set of rules and expectations than those
> >which people expect all other on-line sellers to operate by.
>
> I'm afraid I have to disagree with this, as well. Heritage isn't the
> only auction house to arrange for ebayers to participate in their
> live auctions in real time; not by a long shot.  Go to eBay Live
> sometime and check out the schedule of upcoming auctions; it's as
> long as your arm, all kinds of stuff from many different live
> auctioneers, and almost all including a stipulated buyer's premium.
> Heritage may be the only one that routinely deals in posters, but
> they hardly occupy a unique position in ebay's business model.  In
> fact, one could argue that heritage actually discourages
> participation through ebay, due to the additional 5% bp they tack on
> to ebay-based winning bids.  Some eBay Live auctioneers just charge
> their standard bp with no additional fees.
>
> RK
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