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This is a good idea. If I dealt in reproduction
posters I'd certainly stamp them. As it is, we have a small bunch of repros
(about a dozen or so of the Portal variety) that have been rolled up in a tube
for years. Like you JR, I have a couple that were for posters I knew I'd never
find (like THE MUMMY) and it has been sitting waiting to be framed for nearly 10
years. Seemed like a good $10 spent at the time. I have a WINGS OF DESIRE and
APOCALYPSE NOW that were palmed to me in a deal a few years ago in a collection
of real posters by some fly-through who came to Sydney from the US. These are
rolled up in a tube marked FAKE POSTERS as an example to me that you can never
be too careful with this material, no matter how long you been at
it.
There are, however, some sellers out there that
would give themselves some serious RSI were they to do this on their inventories
of same-size repros and NEAR same size repros - like the "original" RAIDERS one
sheet I got off a, ahem, reputable eBay seller who swore black and blue that it
was original - and he's selling to a known dealer who's been around for 30
years. Of course when it arrived it was too wide, too short, too orange and was
shiny both sides and had a moire you could throw a brick through. He refunded my
money with an apology. That was one word: "sorry". What? Sorry he tried to rip
me off for a hundred bucks, sorry he lied to me when I asked specific questions
about its originality before bidding, sorry because he got caught
out?
So yes, it is a good idea for reputable dealers
to take up. But don't reputable dealers also clearly describe a repro for what
it is before they sell it, or is the idea that eventually they will all get
stamped and collectors in decades to come will know that that particular poster
is a repro? There are millions of bogus one sheets out there including in the
collecting food chain - lost of this stuff doesn't get bought and stay with that
collector forever. eBay and the 'net has made every collector a "dealer",
so this stuff is changing hands all the time, faster than it ever did
before.
The guys selling the fakes, repros
crap don't give a flying **** about originality or playing fair or being
honest. They just want the money.
Phil Edwards
Phil Edwards Cinema Arts
26 Vista Avenue
Soldiers Point
NSW
2317
AUSTRALIA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27
AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Reprints - Sellers
should mark them
Dave has indicated to me that he thinks
the concept of using a rubber stamp to identify same-size reproductions
as such is a great idea and that he plans to implement it in his
operation. It isn't often that a seller responds so positively to a buyer's
public suggestion (which some sellers tend to immediately get defensive about
for reasons I have never understood). Anyway, I think that's a strong
recommendation for people on this list to make it a point to do business with
ReelDeals.com and Dave's auctions (even if they aren't on
MoviePosterBid.com...) -- whether you are looking for originals or
reproductions (yes, folks, I do have some reproductions in my collection... I
admit it... for those posters that I am never going to pay $50,000.00 or more
for, not even if I win the lottery).
In the future, I will be continuing to stick my nose
into other people's business and urging any and all sellers whom I see
offering same-size reproductions that a rubber stamp saying
"reproduction" be applied to all of them on the NSS line where it
could not easily be trimmed off. It's such a simple concept, so easy to do,
but it would be such a great help everyone. Imagine if we had all started
doing this 10 or 15 years ago? There really is no reason not to do this and
save ourselves and future movie poster collectors the worry.
"This has been a public service message from Poster
Curmudgeons for A Better Tomorrow -- it's 6 o'clock in the evening -- have
your posters come home for dinner yet?"
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:12
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Reprints -
Sellers should mark them
Dave,
I have to agree with Danny on this one. One of the banes of movie
poster collecting is the fact that in the past manufacturers of same-size
reproductions of movie posters have often failed to put something at the
bottom of the poster in the border that clearly states it is a
reproduction. This really is inexcusable and in court would be considered
an "attempt to commit fraud" if someone ever bothered to pay a lawyer to
take it to court. In fact, when back when Sun was selling reproductions,
they actually were taken to court and were ordered to put an identifying
phrase on their merchandise.
While it is great that you identify reproductions in your on-line
descriptions or catalog, what happens after you sell the reproduction? Do
you care that the buyer can then pass it on as an "original" to some
unwary purchaser in the future?
I urge all those who regularly sell reproductions to make up a small
rubber stamp that says "reproduction" and stamp the identifying mark in
the bottom corner, on the same line with any original information such as
the NSS statement, so that it could not be cut off without significantly
defacing the poster. It would only cost a few bucks to have the stamp made
up. This would be the responsible thing to do -- and provide a great and
lasting service to the move poster community from which you are making a
living. It seems like the right thing to do, to me anyway. Is there a good
reason not to do it?
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005
14:13
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Reprints
Hi Danny,
Every one of my items is
identified if it is a reprint or an original. As
far as an
identification on the poster itself, some are clearly marked
by
having the name of the reprint company right on the poster. Others
aren't
marked as clearly. I personally do not add anything on or to
the poster
distinguish it as a reprint.
As in most
cases, knowing your seller also helps in this department.
Hope
this answers your questions and thanks for
asking.
Sincerely,
Dave Smith
Reel
Deals
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Steward"
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To:
<[email protected]>
Sent:
Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Reprints
>
This mail is directed to Dave Smith of Reel Deals and anyone else who
is
> selling same size reproductions of movie posters. Do
you identify your
> reproductions in any way that they are indeed
reproductions. Is there any
> chop, mark, or ID on either
front or back that your business has created
> these
reproductions?
>
> Danny Steward /
Seattle
>
>
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