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Bill,
Such a thing isn't quite as cut-and-dried as you seem to think. Very few of
the dealers who sell repros ONLY sell repros. They usually sell mostly original
posters, with some repros mixed in. This can make them very difficult to
identify. Some will sell a repro by genuine accident, as many of the
reprints are quite good and can easily slip by even an experienced seller unless
he decides to examine it under a microscope or take precise measurements --
something just not worth doing for most of these posters, which will only go for
$5 to $20 at auction, after all.
A big part of the problem is, as you can see by looking at a web site like
www.moviegoods.com, is that there have
been full-size or very near-full-size reproductions made of an awful lot of
posters -- most particularly posters from the last 10 to 15 years. As far as I
can tell, every movie that was even moderately popular for the past 10 or 15
years has had reproductions made of it.
This is why you see people recommending you buy the newer stuff from a MOPO
dealer or some other seller who has at least made some commitment to the
community by participating in this list, or MPT or some other forum. First, such
people tend to be more concerned about their goods and their reputation than
many eBay sellers and they also tend to be very experienced, which helps them
weed out at least most of the repros that come their way. But not all list
sellers may fit this bill -- quite a few just run an ad through every
few days and never say anything else except "check out my auctions" -- most of
those people are just using the lists an advertising venue and I doubt that most
of them even bother to read the other posts on the list. So, how much they would
be worried about a fellow MOPO member getting stuck with a repro is
problematic.
While it's not the easy, quick-fix answer you seem to be seeking -- the
best thing to do is ask around and get recommendations, make some notes
yourself, educate yourself with sites like the MPT site (you'll find a clickable
banner ad for it on www.MoviePosterBid.com) and try to
strike up a relationship with some dealers who care and are
experienced enough to know a repro most of the time when they see it and are
likely to do right by you.
But if you can identify some seriously, habitual offenders, by all means
feel free to create such a list yourself and publish it.. But just be aware that
the moment you do, there will be people who write in and say "Hey, wait a
minute, I bought an X-MEN advance from that guy and it was fine"... or
"I've always been very happy with the posters I received from Harry's Rumba and
Poster Emporium on eBay, what are you talking about?"
It's also worth nothing that we do try to monitor the auctions on www.MoviePosterBid.com as closely as we
can and generally have sellers on the auction site who are committed to doing
right by their customers, so I would say stand a better chance of getting
an true original on MPB that you will on eBay. But there are no
guarantees.
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 14:21
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: MOPO regarding
finding NEMO reprints on ebay
Martin,
Thanks for taking the time
and effort to both question this dealer and
to post your information to
MOPO. In it unfortunate that nobody is willing
to name the
questionable dealers. I've been trying to purchase some newer
posters
in recent weeks/months and about the only advice that I get is to
buy from
one or two dealers who happen to be MOPO, MPT, or Style-B
members
(depending upon where you are posting/reading). There have to
be other
legitimate dealers and of course a host of problem dealers out
there.
The problem dealers may in fact have
lots of legitimate items but as
soon as they knowingly offer questionable
items, they are off limits for me.
I know that there have been threats of
lawsuits in the past, but we have to
find a way to weed out the dealers
that can be trusted from those who can't.
It probably would be acceptable
to have a MOPO*Approved tag if it could be
actually worth something.
The attempts in the past including LAMP's current
attempt seem to only
reward advertisers, friends, colleagues,
etc.
I will be posting an
experience of mine shortly (as soon as I
receive a refund) that I've had
recently with an ebay dealer. I hope to
help others who might
consider purchasing from this
person.
Does anybody have an
idea about how to generate a true *Approved
list of dealers? Does
anyone else care?
Thanks again,
Bill
-----Original
Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Monday, May 09, 2005 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:
[MOPO] Fwd: MOPO regarding finding NEMO reprints on ebay
I had a
conversation with Believe in Movies regarding their "finding Nemo
posters"
listed on ebay which are clearly reprints. Below is
the
information
from Dan's "movieposterauthentication.com" site.
Thanks to Dan for making
this
information available and
public........and below that, see my email
exchanges
with "believe in
movies" about his 27" x 40" , "approximately" description,
and the SONIS
Company logo. His auction pictures clearly show the reprint
company's
logo. I asked him to measure it and let me know what the
actual
not
approximate size is. Of course he didn't, and
considered me hostile... and
uniformed. Martin
*****from Dan's
site*********
Finding Nemo
Finding Nemo was released in North America
theatrically on 3,374 screens May
30 2003.The film had the largest opening
weekend for any animated film upon
its US release (30 May 2003).Reprints
measure 26 3/4 x 38 1/2.You will find
a
company logo on one of the fish
in the lower left side which I believe to be
the
logo for (Sonis) the
company that reprints movie posters.One can be found on
the Matrix poster
reprint as well.
Finding Nemo
The fish is clean with no logo
on it.Originals measure 26 15/16 x 39
15/16.There were s/s and d/s
originals printed.There seems to be only s/s
reprints.
****AND his
responses to my emails*******
Subj: Re: Question for
item #6388693087 - Cool Disney's FINDING NEMO
Shark
Movie
Po...
Date: 4/22/2005 11:42:43 PM Eastern Daylight
Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get different
sizes of the same posters in all the time, many times in the
same
shipment. That is why I state the sizes as
"approx".
Lou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..... if you
took the time to measure it, its not 27 x 40.
It"s
"APPROXIMATELY
SMALLER"
In a message dated 4/22/2005
11:45:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Subj: Re: Question for item
#6388693087 - Cool Disney's FINDING NEMO
Shark Movie
Po...
Date: 4/22/2005 11:45:51 PM Eastern Daylight
Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not
going to argue with you. I DO know my product. I am one of
only
37
licenced movie poster distributors for the studios across the
US. I have
been licenced for 17 years and distribute to the theaters
in PA, NY, NJ, DE
and
MD for all the movie studios, including Buena
Vista (Pixar, Disney,
Touchstone,
etc). I'm not sure where your
hostility is coming from. There is no
"reprint logo" on the
poster. I don't know what it is you think you
are
seeing.
Lou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no its
not. It clearly has the reprint logo on it. Its a disney
poster,
design originally made by pixar... but its clearly a reprint.
I'm suprised
you dont know more about what you sell and who actually
makes
them.
Martin>>
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