Phyllis Diller....???

best, Tom

"Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D" wrote:

And the punch line is ....?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Edwards Cinema Arts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Restoration or recreation?

> This reminds of a joke a New York poster dealer friend once cracked
> about West Coast poster collectors... he said:
>
> "Hell, they love everything linen backed over there. They'd linen back
> their faces if they could."
>
> Phil
>
>
> Freedom Lover wrote:
>
>> Restoration is the act of taking something and bringing it back as
>> close to its original state as possible.
>>
>> It's the same on _any_ restoration: architecture, cosmetic surgery,
>> etc.  One wants them to be as close to their original condition as
>> possible.  I consider ALL of this as restoration.
>>
>> Recreation?  That would be adding another room to an old mansion and
>> making it look like it came that way.  It would be changing a nose
>> from a bump to a ski jump. (Restoration would just be a facelift)
>>
>> Michael Jackson is a recreation.  I'm a restoration.
>>
>> Andrea Kanter
>>
>> PS BRAVO and thank-you to all those restorers who can achieve this!
>> We need to keep our treasures alive.
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Michael Spampinato <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>     *To:* [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2005 1:41 AM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Restoration or recreation?
>>
>>     A clever rejoinder but it does disservice to those who are
>>     genuinely involved in restoration. Folks who collect paper should
>>     EDUCATE themselves on restoration. Learn to identify it. Learn to
>>     understand the nuances of restoration and to apply those nuances
>>     to their own value set.
>>
>>     To just glom all restoration into a "fooling someone else" is
>>     insulting to those who are really interested in saving a rare
>>     piece, be they restorers or cutomers..
>>
>>     Or should we not attempt any retsorative measures on those rarely
>>     found pieces and dump them in the trash?
>>
>>     I thank you.
>>
>>     Pov
>>
>>     */Alan Adler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>>
>>         Recreation is fooling yourself and restoration is fooling
>>         someone else.
>>
>>         Alan
>>
>>
>>         On Nov 30, 2005, ! at 4:31 PM, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:
>>
>>         > Hhhmmm...
>>         >
>>         > I'd be curious to know what Mopers think the line between
>>         restoration
>>         > and recreation might be?
>>         >
>>         > Phil
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Toochis Morin wrote:
>>         >
>>         >> If it's something rare, I think the resto is worth it.
>>         >> By the way, Sue. How large is the 2 panel Italian?
>>         >> What is the next largest size? A six-sheet?
>>         >> Toochis
>>         >>
>>         >> --- Phil Edwards Cinema Arts
>>         >> wrote:
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >>> Tom is spot on. While many other (if not all)
>>         >>> flaws/defects/damage to a
>>         >>> poster can be treated by a restorer, once it's faded
>>         >>> and lost something
>>         >>> that was there completely, it requires a major
>>         >>> repaint job.
>>         >>>
>>         >>> And who in their right minds would want that?
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Phil
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Tom A. Pennock wrote:
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> Other than pieces out I would think fading would
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>
>>         >>> be one of the worst
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> defects of a movie poster. No amount of work by a
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>
>>         >>> professional
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> restorer could ever bring color back to a faded
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>
>>         >>> poster IMHO. I can't
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> get UV plex for my large French posters so they
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>
>>         >>> stay completely out of
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> the sunlight.
>>         >>>> --Tom Pennock
>>         >>>>
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