wants tosend me " western Union" well.. I just hope out to go
out of 2005 with a bang..
although.. I get about 39 emails a week from supposedly
wealthy Nigerians that want to send me Millions from Lost relatives,,
But I must Move on.. keep them Doggies Rollin as Dan Akroyd once told
Us.
Andy, They don't have vast amounts
of disposable income per person, not compared to America and Europe. And
that's the key to collecting stuff, lots of disposable income that you
don't have to use to live on. I'm not saying there are no collectors in
the 3rd world, but the number must be very small compared to America and
Europe (and places like Australia and Japan). The actual sales we
see taking place on eBay (sales, not listings that don't sell), the various
auctions and best-guesses for private sellers, based on what they say in
public, indicates to me that not much more than 100,000 movie posters are
sold on average per year. Subtract at least 20,000 from that number for
the occasional buyer who usually purchases a poster for a new film (but
likely doesn't keep it more than a year or two before moving on to something
else) and that leaves 80,000 going into the hands of "collectors" (based
on the 4 or more per year definition). That would mean 20,000 "collectors"
-- except that a lot of collectors buy a *whole lot* more than 4 per year.
So, I have to conclude that the best guess would be a maximum of 10,000
active collectors at any given time. If there were anything close
to 100,000 active collectors out there, we would see a whole lot more posters
being sold. -- JR
----- Original Message -----
To: [email protected]Sent:
Friday, December 16, 2005 4:33
Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster
collectors are there?
China, India and Europe are not 3rd world countries, they have Vasts
amounts
of wealth!!!!!
World 6,446,131,400
China 1,306,313,812
India 1,080,264,388
European Union 456,953,258
United States 295,734,134
So what you are saying doesn't really make sense and therefore I have
every
reason to have an opinion based on world population.
As i said this is my opinion
Thanks
Andy
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From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:18:49 -0500
No way. The nearly 7 billion people live mostly in the impoverished
3rd
world -- they don't money to live on, much less spend on movie posters.
You
can't use the world population as a guide. The only practical approach
is to
go with the evaluations of long-time dealers -- they are the ones with
the
best feel for the market. I'd guess somewhere between Bruce's 5,000
and an
upper estimate of 10,000 collectors are active at any given time (meaning
those who buy at least 4 posters a year). Of course, people drift in
and out
of collecting. I've drifted in and out 4 times in the past 40 years,
sometimes staying away for as long as 10 years. But I think if there
were
more than 10,000 currently active buyers that we'd see a lot more sales.
At
4 per year, that's a minimum 40,000 posters sold just to "collectors"
--
with the number probably closed to 60,000 - 80,000 a year (since 4
per year
would be a minimum and many collectors do much more than that). Then
there
are at least another 20,000 "contemporary" posters sold to casual buyers
who
just want to have a poster or two from their current favorite films
to
display. So, that's 60,000 to 100,000 posters sold a year -- about
what I
seem to see changing hands on eBay and other auctions, plus factoring
in
some private selling. Of course, we have no real way of gauging how
much
private selling is going on.
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Neal
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:49
Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there?
I think David is the warmest to the figures mentioned so far....
The World population is approx 6.4 Billion
I would estimate at least 50,000+ serious and casual collectors.
If I had to put a bet on it, I would say more like 100,000. You only
have to
look on ebay to see how many dealers and the number they are trading
in -
Their feedback scores are a giveaway.
I am certain there are many many collectors (serious and casual) that
need
to come out of their shell, many won't like using mailing lists or
forums,
or just may not know about them.
I'm not claiming to know something that everyone else doesn't here,
this is
just my humble opinion and this is purely food for thought.
I would be interested in seeing ebays stats on individual original movie
poster purchases.
This is an interesting link on the CIA website regarding world
populations....
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html
Thanks
Andy
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From: David Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:41:23 EST
I'd say 10,000 at least. Probably more like 20,000, or even much
more.
Might as well ask how many licks it takes to get to the center of a
tootsie
roll tootsie pop.
The world will never know.
David Lieberman
CineMasterpieces.com
602 309 0500
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