Phil and Clinton,

This is why I object when sellers and collectors refer to re-releases as
"reissues". I have always called them "re-releases" as they are posters
printed for use in theaters during the re-release of a film. Yes...I
know that in Australia and other places they use the term "reissue"
instead of re-release. That's what is muddying the waters. We have two
terms for the same thing -- and to make things worse, people often
mistakenly say "reissue" to mean a REPRINT (i.e., a fake, which I think
what happened here with Clinton's article).

I would submit that since we use the U.S. terminology for the other
facets of describing U.S. movie posters that we should do the same with
re-releases and call them re-releases and retire the term "reissue". I
would be so brazen as to suggest that those in other countries join in
and abandon the term "reissue" in favor of the more descriptive
"re-release". That is the term that most often appears printed on the
poster itself, after all. For example, on the RealArt paper it clearly
says "A RealArt Re-Release".

For another reason, "reissue" just sounds wrong to my ear...  it sounds
like a reissue is an exact reprinting of something at a later date, more
like what they call a "second printing" in the book world, but we don't
recognize second printings in movie poster collecting, only --

"original 1939 release"
or  "1954 re-release" (reissue)
or "reprint (fake)".

It would eliminate future confusion if we could agree on a single term
to refer to an original movie poster that was printed in conjunction
with the re-release of a film. Not that it will ever happen... any more
than this hobby/industry will ever agree on anything like a common
grading system. But I can dream, can't I?

Here are some articles on the subject of reprints and fakes, that
Clinton should check out if he hasn't already.

 First, there is Dave Lieberman's comprehensive and hard-hitting article
(something I feel *everyone* should read and go back and re-read
regularly):

http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/cinearticles.htm#fakes/reprints

There are also general information articles on this topic at:

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/NewSite/INDEX/ARTICLES/reprints.as
p

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/NewSite/INDEX/ARTICLES/commercial.
asp

and this one on the whole re-release / reissue deal:

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/NewSite/INDEX/ARTICLES/reissue.asp


-- JR



----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Edwards Cinema Arts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 21:22
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster fakes help


> It's always useful for people to be able to read opinions about this
> subject.
> However, with all due respect, I think a statement like this:
>
> "A re-issue is not collectible do not waste time or money."
>
> Placed in the body of the text is both incorrect and misleading.
>
> There is a real history to re-issues from studios being collectible
and
> valuable. One word sums up this, although there could be a thousand
that
> follow... REALART.
>
> I think what you have done is the start of a good thing, but I do
think
> that overall the text of your posting needs to be edited and clarified
> as to exactly what you mean by the various statements made.
>
> Presumably, this posting might be read by many collectors new to the
> hobby. Stating that
> "A re-issue is not collectible do not waste time or money." needs to
be
> re-visited.
>
> Further clarifications such as re-strikes, studio issues, etc, etc
might
> also be helpful.
> Regards,
> Phil
>
>
>
> clinton crews wrote:
>
> > I have statred a group and have written a guide on poster fakes any
help
> > would be great
> >
> >
> >
http://reviews.ebay.com/WAYS-TO-TELL-IF-YOU-ARE-GETTING-A-FAKE-POSTER_W0
QQugidZ10000000000740009
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is the group link
> >
> >
> > http://groups.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=100043974
> >
> > Again alot of what i have used in these groups was first written by
> > Dave liberman
> >
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