Hey David
A question for you:
Did you actually bid 5 times towards the end of the auction ($350, $375,
$400, $425, $450) ? or was it just ONE bid of $450 or higher?
This will make a big difference on how the bidding went.
Zeev
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kuspa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: [MOPO] eBay Live Auctions-bidding against invisible and unrecorded
bidders?
I was puzzled by the bid history on an eBay Live auction item I won because
it appeared that I had bid against myself at the end, raising the bid 5
times from the last opposing bidder. There was no reserve. The seller did
not have an explanation, asking if I had bid against myself during the
auction (I hadn't--I had placed an absentee bid and was out of town).
Here's
the bid history:
$450 (myself)
$425 (myself)
$400 (myself)
$375 (myself)
$350 (myself)
$325 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$300 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$275* ebayer #2
$275 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$250 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$225 (myself)
$200 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$100 ebayer#1
To me, it appeared that after the last floor bidder topped out, I
continued
to bid against myself, raising the price another $100. In a normal eBay
auction, there would be an entry before my last bid clearly showing
another
ebayer had bid against me. If they tried to top my bid several times,
there
would be multiple entries for this opposing ebayer. Apparently, I WAS
bidding against someone at the end, but there's no record of that opposing
bidder in the bid history. I contacted eBay Live support, and here's what
they said:
"It may seem that the eBay system is allowing you to bid against yourself;
however, that is not the case. What is actually happening is another
Internet bidder, participating live, is trying to outbid you. We designed
the eBay Live Auctions bidding system to give absentee bids preference
over
live bids. Every time this live bidder tried to place a bid, we entered in
a
bid for you instead. That's why you see a series of bids entered in a row
from your User ID. Since we aren't actually submitting a bid for the live
bidder, we aren't entering his User ID into the bid history. Had there not
been a live Internet bidder, eBay would have had no reason to increase
your
bid amount."
I don't get this at all. Why wouldn't eBay simply insert the eBayer IDs
for
competing bids in a Live Auction? I checked dozens of other eBay Live
auction bid histories and couldn't find a single one that had a similar
pattern. Every one clearly showed competing bids right up to the end,
whether from floor bidders or other ebayers.
-_David
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