david
it's very possible the item did indeed have a reserve, as all items
in that auction, to my knowledge, do have reserves
The auctioneer many times during bidding announced that the last
bidder was $50 under the reserve, and did he wish to pay the reserve
price. This is something you need to be on the floor to see as the
auctioneer goes "we have 200, I'm at 225, now 250, back to me at 275,
now 300, back to me at 325, in the back row at 350, back to me at 375" etc
What I can assure you is that there are no nefarious schemes going
on. Moe Everett, Marty Davis & John Ours are all incredibly honest
people. Why your listing doesnt just have you at each incremental bid
instead of each next bid can easily be a clerical error by the way
Rich================
At 06:32 AM 6/7/2006, David Kuspa wrote:
I was puzzled by the bid history on an eBay Live auction item I won because
it appeared that I had bid against myself at the end, raising the bid 5
times from the last opposing bidder. There was no reserve. The seller did
not have an explanation, asking if I had bid against myself during the
auction (I hadn't--I had placed an absentee bid and was out of town). Here's
the bid history:
$450 (myself)
$425 (myself)
$400 (myself)
$375 (myself)
$350 (myself)
$325 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$300 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$275* ebayer #2
$275 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$250 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$225 (myself)
$200 LiveAuctionFloorBidder
$100 ebayer#1
To me, it appeared that after the last floor bidder topped out, I continued
to bid against myself, raising the price another $100. In a normal eBay
auction, there would be an entry before my last bid clearly showing another
ebayer had bid against me. If they tried to top my bid several times, there
would be multiple entries for this opposing ebayer. Apparently, I WAS
bidding against someone at the end, but there's no record of that opposing
bidder in the bid history. I contacted eBay Live support, and here's what
they said:
"It may seem that the eBay system is allowing you to bid against yourself;
however, that is not the case. What is actually happening is another
Internet bidder, participating live, is trying to outbid you. We designed
the eBay Live Auctions bidding system to give absentee bids preference over
live bids. Every time this live bidder tried to place a bid, we entered in a
bid for you instead. That's why you see a series of bids entered in a row
from your User ID. Since we aren't actually submitting a bid for the live
bidder, we aren't entering his User ID into the bid history. Had there not
been a live Internet bidder, eBay would have had no reason to increase your
bid amount."
I don't get this at all. Why wouldn't eBay simply insert the eBayer IDs for
competing bids in a Live Auction? I checked dozens of other eBay Live
auction bid histories and couldn't find a single one that had a similar
pattern. Every one clearly showed competing bids right up to the end,
whether from floor bidders or other ebayers.
-_David
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