HELLOOOOOOOOOOO
What do YOU MEAN BY "Trekkies" are one strange bunch ???????????????????? What about us ?????????????
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 02:53:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
Phil, being in New York during the 60's-84, I was fortunate enough (?) to go to the first Star Trek conventions ever and the best ones ever as well. Of course I was a dealer at all of them and from the dealer perspective - they changed from the 1970 convention to the mid/late 1970's cons where the fans took on a different form. At the 1970 convention, the fans were what we called "freaks" - or in other words, Hippies mostly (I was becoming one, but in 1970 I was only 13). It was the first time that an older woman (19) wanted to mess around with me. She had great *tits*.
Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him "if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be?"
I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked.
"Trekkies" are one strange bunch
Rich===========================
At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:
>A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in >England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains >one of the truly great surreal events of my working life.
>
>The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled >xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing >erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune.
>
>That was where I discovered for the first time >the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe.
>
>Phil
>
>
>
>Helmut Hamm wrote:
>
>>Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, >>priced at $90, and there's a special for all >>you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get >>you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August.
>>
>>Helmut
>>
>>
>>>*It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It*
>>
>>>By JAMES BARRON
>>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barron/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
>>
>>>The stuff of "Star Trek" ‹ uniforms, >>>communicators and other props, including >>>pointy rubber ears ‹ has boldly gone to a >>>place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx.
>>
>>>In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park >>>East, boxes of "Star Trek" memorabilia that >>>were shipped from the part of the galaxy known >>>as Hollywood are being cataloged and >>>photographed. The catalogers and photographers >>>work for Christie's, the auction house that >>>more often handles impressionists and old masters.
>>
>>>The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits.
>>
>>>So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse >>>are Klingon costumes. On another are the >>>Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William >>>Shatner's uniform. "It's a great" ‹ long pause >>>‹ "leisure suit," said Cathy Elkies, the >>>Christie's official overseeing the sale.
>>
>>>"Star Trek" fans are passionate. They attend >>>conventions. They know "Star Trek V: The Final >>>Frontier" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered >>>Country." They correct dumb mistakes, no >>>matter how obscure, in any articles having >>>anything to do with "Star Trek." They take the >>>idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly >>>so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. >>>No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance >>>when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe >>>wore when she sashayed into Madison Square >>>Garden and sang "Happy Birthday" to President >>>John F. Kennedy. >>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzgerald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
>>
>>>So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies >>>who was the intended audience for the sale, >>>which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not >>>have a ready answer. "I had to say, I really don't know," she said.
>>
>>>That is partly because so few actual props >>>from the various television series and films >>>have been sold before. The items in the sale >>>had been stored in warehouses, some since the >>>original 1960's television series went off the >>>air. But after the cancellation of the UPN >>>prequel "Star Trek: Enterprise" last year, >>>Paramount decided to lighten its holdings.
>>
>>>Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for >>>each item ‹ descriptions that are decidedly >>>different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs.
>>
>>>Consider this one, for a pair of items that >>>Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to >>>$1,500: "Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed >>>with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown."
>>
>>>Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced >>>at remarkable rates, according to >>>Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web >>>devoted to "Star Trek." Christie's says this >>>pair was used in the "Deep Space Nine" episode >>>"Trials and Tribble-ations" and also in a >>>"Star Trek: Enterprise" episode. <http://memory-alpha.org/>
>>
>>>Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale >>>in "a democratic way" ‹ meaning, she >>>explained, "We are pricing it so there will be >>>something for everyone." She said there would >>>be items with estimated prices of $200 or so.
>>
>>>But the estimates on some items are far >>>higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of >>>the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic >>>hobby kit and used on "Star Trek VI: The >>>Undiscovered Country" in 1991, for $15,000 to >>>$25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, >>>the Enterprise-A had made its debut in "Star >>>Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and had gone on a >>>surprisingly speedy journey to the center of >>>the galaxy in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier."
>>
>>>Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, >>>which, according to Memory-Alpha, was "a small >>>utility craft in use by the Federation since >>>the mid-23rd century." Ms. Elkies said this >>>one was used in the drydock sequences in "Star >>>Trek: The Motion Picture" and also in the main >>>title sequence of "Deep Space Nine." >>>Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction.
>>
>>>
>>>Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the >>>craftsmanship of the costumes and props. "If >>>you see something on TV, you don't think >>>there's a backside to it," she said. "But you >>>see these things and you realize how much time >>>and labor went into each object."
>>
>>>The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle >>>"almost looks like an Uzi," Ms. Elkies said, >>>lifting it off the shelf, "and it's heavy."
>>
>>>And then there was the Xindi alien in the >>>stasis chamber from the series "Enterprise." >>>The stasis chamber was a clear plastic >>>cylinder. The Xindi alien was a yellow figure >>>about the size of a 5-year-old child, with >>>wires attached to places that, on a human, >>>would be painful if attached without anesthetic.
>>
>>>Ms. Elkies was not a major "Star Trek" fan >>>before she started to organize the sale. She >>>got her baptism in "Star Trek" mania when she >>>went to a convention in Germany in May. "The >>>funny part was, I couldn't always tell if it >>>was German or Klingon that they were speaking," she said.
>>
>>>At 41, she was a small child when "Star Trek" >>>originally went on the air. "I think it was so >>>different than anything else that was on," she >>>said. "Remember, we had five channels back >>>then, so we weren't inundated with programming >>>the way we are now. It was so original, it was >>>so different, it was gripping, there was >>>always something that hooked you in ‹ and Captain Kirk was very cute."
>>
>>>
>>>freeman fisher
>>>8601 west knoll drive #7
>>>west hollywood, ca
>>>90069
>>
>>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>>
>>>___________________________________________________________________
>>
>>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>>
>>>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>>
>>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
>>
>>
>>
>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________
>>
>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>>
>>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>>
>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
>
> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
> ___________________________________________________________________
> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>
> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>
> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
___________________________________________________________________
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him "if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be?"
I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked.
"Trekkies" are one strange bunch
Rich===========================
At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:
>A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in >England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains >one of the truly great surreal events of my working life.
>
>The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled >xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing >erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune.
>
>That was where I discovered for the first time >the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe.
>
>Phil
>
>
>
>Helmut Hamm wrote:
>
>>Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, >>priced at $90, and there's a special for all >>you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get >>you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August.
>>
>>Helmut
>>
>>
>>>*It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It*
>>
>>>By JAMES BARRON
>>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barron/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
>>
>>>The stuff of "Star Trek" ‹ uniforms, >>>communicators and other props, including >>>pointy rubber ears ‹ has boldly gone to a >>>place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx.
>>
>>>In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park >>>East, boxes of "Star Trek" memorabilia that >>>were shipped from the part of the galaxy known >>>as Hollywood are being cataloged and >>>photographed. The catalogers and photographers >>>work for Christie's, the auction house that >>>more often handles impressionists and old masters.
>>
>>>The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits.
>>
>>>So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse >>>are Klingon costumes. On another are the >>>Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William >>>Shatner's uniform. "It's a great" ‹ long pause >>>‹ "leisure suit," said Cathy Elkies, the >>>Christie's official overseeing the sale.
>>
>>>"Star Trek" fans are passionate. They attend >>>conventions. They know "Star Trek V: The Final >>>Frontier" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered >>>Country." They correct dumb mistakes, no >>>matter how obscure, in any articles having >>>anything to do with "Star Trek." They take the >>>idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly >>>so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. >>>No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance >>>when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe >>>wore when she sashayed into Madison Square >>>Garden and sang "Happy Birthday" to President >>>John F. Kennedy. >>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzgerald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
>>
>>>So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies >>>who was the intended audience for the sale, >>>which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not >>>have a ready answer. "I had to say, I really don't know," she said.
>>
>>>That is partly because so few actual props >>>from the various television series and films >>>have been sold before. The items in the sale >>>had been stored in warehouses, some since the >>>original 1960's television series went off the >>>air. But after the cancellation of the UPN >>>prequel "Star Trek: Enterprise" last year, >>>Paramount decided to lighten its holdings.
>>
>>>Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for >>>each item ‹ descriptions that are decidedly >>>different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs.
>>
>>>Consider this one, for a pair of items that >>>Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to >>>$1,500: "Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed >>>with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown."
>>
>>>Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced >>>at remarkable rates, according to >>>Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web >>>devoted to "Star Trek." Christie's says this >>>pair was used in the "Deep Space Nine" episode >>>"Trials and Tribble-ations" and also in a >>>"Star Trek: Enterprise" episode. <http://memory-alpha.org/>
>>
>>>Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale >>>in "a democratic way" ‹ meaning, she >>>explained, "We are pricing it so there will be >>>something for everyone." She said there would >>>be items with estimated prices of $200 or so.
>>
>>>But the estimates on some items are far >>>higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of >>>the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic >>>hobby kit and used on "Star Trek VI: The >>>Undiscovered Country" in 1991, for $15,000 to >>>$25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, >>>the Enterprise-A had made its debut in "Star >>>Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and had gone on a >>>surprisingly speedy journey to the center of >>>the galaxy in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier."
>>
>>>Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, >>>which, according to Memory-Alpha, was "a small >>>utility craft in use by the Federation since >>>the mid-23rd century." Ms. Elkies said this >>>one was used in the drydock sequences in "Star >>>Trek: The Motion Picture" and also in the main >>>title sequence of "Deep Space Nine." >>>Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction.
>>
>>>
>>>Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the >>>craftsmanship of the costumes and props. "If >>>you see something on TV, you don't think >>>there's a backside to it," she said. "But you >>>see these things and you realize how much time >>>and labor went into each object."
>>
>>>The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle >>>"almost looks like an Uzi," Ms. Elkies said, >>>lifting it off the shelf, "and it's heavy."
>>
>>>And then there was the Xindi alien in the >>>stasis chamber from the series "Enterprise." >>>The stasis chamber was a clear plastic >>>cylinder. The Xindi alien was a yellow figure >>>about the size of a 5-year-old child, with >>>wires attached to places that, on a human, >>>would be painful if attached without anesthetic.
>>
>>>Ms. Elkies was not a major "Star Trek" fan >>>before she started to organize the sale. She >>>got her baptism in "Star Trek" mania when she >>>went to a convention in Germany in May. "The >>>funny part was, I couldn't always tell if it >>>was German or Klingon that they were speaking," she said.
>>
>>>At 41, she was a small child when "Star Trek" >>>originally went on the air. "I think it was so >>>different than anything else that was on," she >>>said. "Remember, we had five channels back >>>then, so we weren't inundated with programming >>>the way we are now. It was so original, it was >>>so different, it was gripping, there was >>>always something that hooked you in ‹ and Captain Kirk was very cute."
>>
>>>
>>>freeman fisher
>>>8601 west knoll drive #7
>>>west hollywood, ca
>>>90069
>>
>>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>>
>>>___________________________________________________________________
>>
>>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>>
>>>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>>
>>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
>>
>>
>>
>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________
>>
>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>>
>>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>>
>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
>
> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
> ___________________________________________________________________
> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
>
> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
>
> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
___________________________________________________________________
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
