Funny how some films polarise opinion... and blind it.

EYES WIDE SHUT did the same thing. Loveed, hated it. Not a lot in between.

KING KONG was not a "bust". It made a fortune, and it won the Oscars for which it was nominated. No, not successful at all. But for some reason, people either hated it or loved it.. or liked it, but those who hated it did what they usually do. They disparaged everything about it and it's director. After LOTR, anything Jackson did was going to be a victim of tall poppy syndrome.

And a lot of people hated KONG long before they saw it. They were always going to hate, no matter what it was like. Heck, don't you go RE-MAKING a "classic", ya hear? Spielberg copped the same thing over WAR OF THE WORLDS, except that wasn't as MUCH of a "classic" as KONG, so he only got half the bucket tipped on him.... and also made a thoroughly modern and disturbing version of Wells' book, and like Wells (if not George Pal) utilised the SF genre for social comment.

Jackson planned KING KONG long before LOTR, but Disney came out with MIGHTY JOE YOUNG and put big gorilla pictures on the nose. Jackson put KONG on the backburner and then Jackson had to fight (initially) to get LOTR made as he wanted it to - as a trilogy - He proved he knew what he was doing. And that let him make KONG the way he wanted. Like LOTR (each chapter) Jackons' "version" suffered a fatal "flaw". The amount of mylar film coud not fit on a single platter at a multiplex, and he was under the usual pressure to deliver a shorter film so more sessions (even staggered over multiple print bookings) could be run to make the candy bar receipts flourish. Film is an art/entertainment medium that is dictated by the size of platter on the projectors... and how many times a day exhibitors can get people past that candy bar and buy that 2000% marked-up crap.

I suspect Jackon's new film will hark back to something like HEAVENLY CREATURES, which remains the "forgotten" Peter Jackson film. And that's full of SPFX, except unless you know where to look, or for the obvious fantasy scenes, they serve the plot and characters.

People who have a big success are always headed for a "fall". Why do you think James Cameron hasn't directed since TITANIC? How do you follow one of the biggest films ever - a film that generated huge repeat business - and is now thought as "uncool" by all those who loved it then, saw it 2-3-4 times.... It's called GWTW-itis.

I guess the thing that I find disappointing is the way people can be so openly contemptuous of the talent and success of others in the film making arena. I'm sure there are a few silent MOPO members who actually work in film making in some capacity, and actually know how hard the whole process is.


As for $207 million budget.... if you don't know how studio accounting practices work....
Phil




JR wrote:

koose,
Even though I personally rated Jackson's KONG to be a 7 out of 10 when it hit the theaters (on IMDb some 62,252 votes put it as 7.8 out of 10), I don't see how it can be considered a bust. Heck, IMDb places it at #36 on the list of all time top money makers world-wide. Box Office Mojo reports its production budget at $207 million and the world-wide box-office take (not counting DVD sales) at $549,216,896 -- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kingkong05.htm ... heck, even if they spent another $100 million on promotion, everyone involved did much better than just "break even" (except perhaps by Hollywood accounting standards). If you figure in the DVD money, I think they probably did very well, maybe getting 3 bucks back for every 1 they spent. Only in today's Hollywood, where if you don't make back at least 5 bucks for every dollar spent can a movie that brings in over half a billion dollars at the box office be somehow considered a "bust". People have got awfully greedy recently. I'm not about to be suckered into popping for no 3-disc set, but I'll definitely Netflix this extended edition when it comes out. I'd love for the added material to be good enough to allow me to bump my rating up to at least 8 out of 10 if not higher. That was certainly the case with Jackson's LORD OF THE RINGS films... the extended DVD versions are definitely superior to the theatrical releases. -- JR ----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Kusumoto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, August 05, 2006 22:59
*Subject:* [MOPO] "King Kong" gets an extended cut

*Sure enough, this might be old news to most, but it was news to me. At the San Diego Comic-Con last month, Peter Jackson talked about yet another "extended cut" he plans to put out on DVD later this year of his box-office bust, "King Kong." (A bust only because it "broke even" worldwide). *

*Well at Amazon.com, it showed up. **http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H30B2C*

*There will be 13 minutes added to an already LONG-a** film, plus on extra discs will will be sixteen deleted scenes totalling 40 minutes. A three disc set. Ridiculous.*

*Peter Jackson's next project is the "small, intimate" adapation of Alice Sebold's 2002 monstrous USA best seller (4 million copies), "The Lovely Bones," which was narrated by a murdered teenage girl who watches how "life goes on" with her friends and family and a killer who's never caught. I've read the book and my fear is Jackson will turn a "little" story set in American suburbia -- that could probably be made for $15 million tops (the budget for this year's "United 93," which more than doubled its return) -- into an $70 million CGI fest filled with ghosts.*

*-koose.*

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