This greylisting software the ISPs are using to attempt to minimize Spam is a bad joke -- it's like the French building the Maginot line after World War I. The spammers are way ahead of them -- they constantly rotate which servers they hijack to use to send out their bulk mailings with, backdooring into them on legitimate accounts that have been left vulnerable by less-than-savvy users. By the time a server is identified as "sourcing spam" on the grey list, it is no longer doing so in most cases... the spammers have moved on to another server that is not yet on the grey list. So the owner of the grey-listed server has to jump through all kinds of hoops to get his server off the grey list. Then what happens? Right... a few weeks later the rotation comes back around to his server and it ends up sourcing spam for a few days again and getting greylisted again.
The end result is that virtually all of the spam is still getting through, but users are constantly finding legitimate messages they send being bounced back to them automatically "as spam" or are failing to receive legitimate messages which are being sent to them but which they never see because they are intercepted at the incoming server gate. The original plan was much better -- let each individual run their own spam filter and deal with the problem as best as they can. This attempt to stop it at the server level is not only failing to stop spam, but is crippling the exchange of non-spam email. -- JR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Edwards Cinemarts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:54 Subject: Re: [MOPO] testing, testing > I know. I know. > I actually got this same message 3 times > from MOPO/Kirby. > > The machines are not our friends. > Phil > > Kirby McDaniel wrote: > > Yes, I got blocked last week. I can't imagine MOPO wanting to > > be without my posts. > > > > K. > > > > > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Phil Edwards Cinemarts wrote: > > > >> Some folks are mentioning on NSFGE that their MOPO posts are getting > >> rejected, or they have not had any MOPO emails for days. > >> > >> There has been a definite rise in the use of the NDSL "greylisting" > >> system that sees so-called spamming IPs being blocked, and at one > >> time or another it seems everyone's IPs get a turn. > >> > >> Phil > >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >>> > >>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > >>> > >>> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > >>> > >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > >>> > >> > >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > >> Send a message addressed to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > >> The author of this message is > >> solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
