Hi Tom,
   I'm sure you have chosen a nice wood frame, it should be for that cost. Based on your dimensions, you are paying about $12-$13 a foot.  The archival foamcore, at dealer cost is about $30 tops for a sheet 48x96. That is the Artcare Product I use, which is not just acid free but has ingredients in it to neutralize acids in the poster itself and/or linenbacking materials and the environment around the poster. They would need two sheets for your job. You list it as acid free buffered foamcore. In the framing world, that is not typically how it is stated. There is buffered product and there is acid free product. They don't make matting that size, so I am not sure what they are using for matting unless they are using foamcore at the mat and covering it with fabric or if they are piecing together smaller matting to make a larger one. Also, you had stated the size of the poster as 63x94, wouldn't the overall dimensions then with a mat be larger than 66" on the horizontal if the vertical goes from 94"-110"? What is "hinging"? Also, if you are paying $700 for a piece of acrylic, there shouldn't be any scratches or imperfections in it. They can pack it in such a way that it stays safe. Remember, that is just acrylic, not UV filtered plexiglass. Hopefully it is 1/8" thick at the minimum. You would probably save yourself a lot of money if you didn't mat the item. The bottom line is that framing anything is expensive in a retail custom frame shop. Oversize pieces are astronomical. From the framers point of view, this type of piece takes an enormous amount of time to do and it is very stressful, so they are charging accordingly. If these are the prices they charge, I don't feel they should have to deliver it for free. As a customer that would be nice and it would be a nice gesture on their part, but our delivery guys and picture hangers here in L.A. charge $75 an hour with a two hour minimum. Overall, I don't think the price is too high for a retail store. The last six sheet I did was about that price and that is wholesale. That was also about 3 years ago. I don't do six sheets anymore as they are just too time consuming. 110" is very large and a tough job. It's like building a piece of furniture. I'm sure that part of the costs of each individual item has a profit margin put into it as their labor factor is too low and I'm sure they have compensated that by increasing the price of the product. Of course, they have to make a profit.  The problem you have is getting somebody who even wants to tackle a piece this size. For that, you have to pay a premium. The bottom line is that these oversize pieces look spectacular when they are hung in your home.
 
 
Sue
(800) 463-2994
p.s. I'm sure that $150 delivery charge is not being absorbed by the framer, it is in the $700 cost. Feel free to call me with any other questions.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: [MOPO] Itemized List For Sue Heim Of MyThunderball 1965 007 Poster Costs (63" x 94")

For Sue Heim: (And Other's That Are Interested)
 
Dear Sue:
 
I recently received a rough draft for the framing cost's of my "Thunderball" 1965 French "Double Panel" 63" x 94" restored and on linen. I just wanted you to look this over and to let me know if you think this is fair price wise. The freight on the acrylic is $150.00 and my framer is going to absorb that. As far as moving the poster we really have not arrived at a price on that. The shop is in another town and I feel since her brother in law is a professional mover he could bring it to my house. I live about 35 miles from her shop. I feel she should throw the moving in to sweeten the deal.
 
Here Is The List Itemized: (I Sent One To Bruce A Couple Of Week's Ago)
 
$400.00 For The Frame
$100.00 For The Labor ???
$700.00 For The Acrylic (Plexiglass)
$160.00 For The Archival Acid Free Buffered Foam Core
$160.00 For The Archival Acid Free Buffered Mats
$125.00 For The Hinging
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Sub-Total Without Tax $1,645.00
 
Final Dimensions Estimate 66" x 110"???
 
Is this fair? She was not sure her supplier could get the acrylic but he can. She did say to expect some imperfections in the plexiglass. Namely scratches.
 
Would appreciate your thought's on this estimate.
 
Sincerely,
 
--Tom Pennock  
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