Yeah, Shelly, you're right. Badly dubbed monster movies are definitely the exception to the rule. The one occasion when bad dubbing actually adds to the entertainment value!
Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelly Whitworth-King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Subtitles > Sound point! Even though the quality of subtitles will forever irk me, I > much prefer subs to a badly dubbed English track .. except if it's a > GODZILLA film - they rock! > > Shelly > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Dave Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Dave Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Subtitles > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:54:41 -0500 > > I've been watching (and reading) sub-titled films all my life. I usually > forget that I'm reading titles within minutes of the film beginning and > often when I think back on a given film I'll remember the characters > speaking English, even though in fact they were speaking another language. > > I prefer the titles over dubbing because dubbing (even in this day and age) > is so badly done. Sad to say, it's usually lesser actors who are hired to > dub foreign films. I also prefer to hear the actors' actual voices, which > can communicate nuances through their inflections, even in a language I > don't understand. > > BTW, if you're looking to learn another language, sub-titled films is one of > the best learning tools. > > And, as for reading the titles and watching the images: If you can read a > comic book you can watch a sub-titled film. > > Best, > Dave > > Posteropolis > www.posteropolis.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Edwards Cinema Arts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:36 AM > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Subtitles > > > > The first subtitled film I ever saw was SEVEN SAMURAI, the 205 minute > > version (because the print was an original from Japan brought in by the > then > > distributors here because they believed in such stuff), in 35mm at a > > screening by the film society at Sydney University one Saturday > afternoon. > > It was about 1964... I was certainly no older than a young 15 at any > rate. > > > > I'd read about this "great movie" in several movie history books I had > been > > devouring since I was about 10 or 11. I thought I'd better get myself > along > > to see one of these "foreign films" I'd been reading about. I thought it > was > > going to be a chore. You know - you have to see this because it's "art" > and > > famous and film history. I figured I'd be bored stiff. And you know, it > was > > sub-titled... one of those fillums with writing down the bottom of the > > screen. I only found out when I got there that it was well over 3 > hours... > > sheesh. > > > > So I emerged 205 minutes later totally gob-smacked. After 10 minutes I > > hadn't even realised that I was watching and reading simultaneously. If > > there's anyway I can see a film in its original language with subtitles, > > then that's what I'll go for - whatever it is. > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shelly Whitworth-King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Subtitles > > > > > > > In non-English films in general, the quality of the subtitles is > sometimes > > > an issue for me. It is often apparent that what is being said in the > film > > > and what the subtitles say are not the same thing. Much can be lost. > > > > > > I am fully aware of the limitations of subtitles, but I do think that > > > sometimes the standard could be raised. It is an art in itself really. > > > > > > Shelly > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: Toochis Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: Toochis Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Subtitles > > > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:01:01 -0800 > > > > > > The characteristic about both films: Letters from Iwo Jima and > Apocalypto > > > is that they are much like silent films and you can follow them easily. > > > There isn't heavy dialogue and yet it has made both films quite > > > compelling. > > > > > > Toochis > > > > > > channinglylethomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The > main > > > problem I have with subtitled movies is that I prefer to > > > "watch" a movie rather than "read" a movie. That said, it's definitely > > > an acquired skill that becomes easier -- but never as easy as watching > > > a film produced in your native language. > > > > > > Channing Thomson in San Francisco > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free > newsletters! > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > Send a message addressed to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > The author of this message is solely > > > responsible for its content. > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
