I can speak from first hand knowledge,  from meetings directly with the
technology companies that can look at a pirated copy and tell what
theatre it came from based on information in the print,  that it is very
true.   Canada and Russia are the two leading sources of a LARGE
majority of illegal copies of movies worldwide.  Both the ones sold on
the street and distributed on the internet.
 
Or you can say I am full of Sh*t too if you want.   :)    
 
It is just a matter of time before the film industry goes through a
radical transformation (ie Downsizing)  like the music industry is doing
now because of piracy.    The only thing holding back the damage is
Bandwidth and Hard Disk sizes.     But in enough years,   the bandwidth
will be there to download a movie as fast and easy as a song today.
And your disk drives in your homes will be large enough to hold
THOUSANDS of copies.     
 
The libraries of the studios will become worthless and that is what
keeps the doors open.  It is the single biggest reason Dreamworks
struggled and eventually went to Paramount.     A studio can go through
a down turn,  they all do.   But somewhere,  sometime,  someone is
playing one of your 3000 films.   Those $$ keep coming in and they keep
the lights on.   If you don't have a large enough library,  you don't
have the revenue.    George Lucas is doing more TV because he said for
the same amount of money he can create 100 episodes of TV STAR WARS for
what it costs for one film.   It is all about the library.
 
So I am all for searches, stronger penalties, anything to keep our
fingers in the leaking dam.   But in a few years it won't matter.
You are always going to have people with more time than money who will
steal content.     
 
I hope I am wrong,   but I see the tide coming and it isn't going to be
pretty.   

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From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
Brooks
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] MovieGoods?


Hey, I just asked you to question the lies and you go right out and...  
 
Cause, that's another whopper from the MPAA.  I go to a lot of
preview/press-screenings here in Canada and the one thing most of them
have in common:  body searches, metal-detectors and night-vision
goggles!  Oh yeah, the night vision goggle thing started about 2 or 3
years ago up here.  So, either Variety's WAY behind in their reporting -
or the MPAA's full of shit and trying to push some sort of new
anti-consumer legislation through Congress...  Remember, these are the
people who like to spout off statistics like such and such percent of
piracy comes from such and such a place?  Last I heard, if you added up
all the percentages from all the countries on Earth, it comes out
somewhere around 300% of all the world's piracy...  They're also the
people who prevent you from seeing any movie with thrusting in it.
Cause, there's nothing on the entire planet more damaging to the human
psyche than seeing two people having realistic-looking sex.  They're
openly sexist (on the other hand, at least they aren't racist anymore).
They treat indie films considerably harsher than big-budget films.
Etc...
 
Cheers,

Bob

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: JEFF POTOKAR <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
        To: [email protected] 
        Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:19 PM
        Subject: Re: [MOPO] MovieGoods?

        bob, 

        film piracy is growing in canada, too, with people sneaking
cameras into theaters, to videotape films... hence certain studios are
NO LONGER choosing to preview there, prior to their wide release... 

        this was reported in Variety a month or so ago... and as someone
that works in post production here in los angeles, i say: correct move. 

        i'd call this type of behaviour lawless and illegal, wouldn't
you?!?!?.

        jeff




        On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Bob Brooks wrote:


                
                I'm sorry, only have a second to reply here, but wow....
                 
                Do all you Americans really believe that Canada is this
lawless place, like the Wild West - but, with bad pharmaceuticals?????
You people REALLY have to start questioning your leaders when they lie
to you...
                 
                Cheers,
                
                Bob

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Susan Heim <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

                        To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
                        Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:33 AM
                        Subject: Re: [MOPO] MovieGoods?

                        Hey Tom,
                          I'm sure it is because they are based in
Canada. Most of the reproduction houses are in Europe, mainly France and
Germany. It may be that the laws are hard to enforce on this issue out
of the states. Many of my studio contacts say it's just too
overwhelming. To be honest, while someone is making money off of their
image, it is still their image advertising their movie that is being put
out there. So, in a way it's millions of dollars in free publicity.
Duplicating a video, DVD or CD to resell it is a different matter since
those are primarily being produced for sale to the public to make a
profit. Movie posters are not made for the public for sale or otherwise
so the only money the studio is losing in that venture are the people
that help themselves to originals at the studio, the printer or other
vendors that utilize movie posters. In the end even those posters make
it to a wall somewhere, again advertising that movie.
                            Moviegoods makes their own line of
reproductions and buys repros from other sources. I supply Moviegoods
the frames they sell on their website and often they ship me the posters
to install in the frames. They have a nice line of reproductions to
movies all the way back to the silents and conveniently printed to
27x40, not some weird size like the ones that come out of Europe. That
allows customers to swap posters in and out of a standard size movie
poster frame. They are made on photographic paper and in no way would
you confuse it for an original and they don't claim otherwise. I don't
know what type of licensing agreement they have, if any. I'm sure most
of these companies reproducing posters don't have licensing agreements.
Portal does and I'm sure it irks them that they have to pay those fees
when all these other companies are out there reproducing like crazy for
no fees. Just guessing.
                         
                        Sue

                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: Tom A. Pennock
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                                To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
                                Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:09 AM
                                Subject: [MOPO] MovieGoods?

                                
                                How does the company MovieGoods get away
with reproducing ALL those movie posters, lobby cards, EVERYTHING?
Someone said it's because they are really based out of Canada. I would
think legally royalties would have to be paid. These prints are not
licenced like the Portal's and other were or are now. These are just run
off  with total disregard for the studio's and copyright holders.
                                 
                                --Tom Pennock



                                
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