Phil
as you know I am a bigtime Ray Chandler fan
I have several first editions, all the pulp appearances save one,
numerous books & biographies of him & naturally I collect movie
posters related to him, his novels and his Hollywood work....
I have never heard of his having any connection to Old Yeller, I
looked at one of the biographies and there is no mention of Old
Yeller and seeing as by 1957 Hollywood wasn't interested in him, and
he was equally (or more so) not interested in Hollywood.. I suggest
that whomever told you that was - like Disney - telling a fairy tale.
Keep in mind that by 1957, Chandler was a virtual recluse since the
death of his wife Cissy and in failing health.
Also, of all projects connected to Chandler, Old Yeller would be as
far from his type of work that getting him involved couldn't be less
of an intelligent idea.
I have one more place to look.. the book of his letters. But I doubt
I will find any mention of Old Yeller in there.
Rich====================
At 02:08 PM 3/5/2008, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:
Little known fact about OLD YELLER was that they were having script
problems and drafted in a near the end of the line Raymond Chandler
to help out.
He simply adapted one of his own rules for when the plotting gets
dry - have someone come through the door and shoot the dog.
Phil
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Fairy tales are often very dark (whole books have been written on
the subject, but the names of the classic texts escape me right
now), so Disney was not really doing anything new, just continuing a tradition.
Tom
Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:
Phil
I think if you look at lots of Disney films, they have some
overtly violent contexts
Snow White: the Witch terrified children at the time and I have 2
cousins who to this day have not seen the film since they were
little girls and refused to let their children watch it when they
were youngsters
Bambi: the forest fire & a number of other scenes create wailing
children everytime it is screened
Peter Pan: death & destruction
Pinochio: oh c'mon, being swallowed by the whale in that
terrifying scene makes kids doody their pants.
and those are just some samples.
Rich============
At 12:50 PM 3/5/2008, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:
Maybe Unka Walt really hated children?
I'm sure audience testing went on back then for studio releases
specifically WDPs, and while OY is a "classic childrens film"
you would think that audience test responses would have
indicated that it was potentially a tad too traumatic for
younger kids, especially those with a mutt at home.
So either Walt was cackling with glee up the back of the
previews as the tots were reduced to wailing and sobbing, or
thinking WELL, IT'S GOOD FOR CHILDREN TO "LEARN ABOUT LOSS".....
AND PAY ME TO DO SO.
Or as another well-known producer said privately in more recent
years, THERE'S A KID OUT THERE IN THE VALLEY WITH A DOLLAR IN
HIS POCKET, AND I WANT IT.
Phil
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About 2 years ago, I finally put Old Yeller on t.v. I had been
telling my children about it for so many years and my now 11 year
old is a huge movie buff. We had to stop it at "the" part as she
was so upset. She vowed never to watch it again.
Sue
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Penny Serenade! OMG
Perhaps second only to Old Yeller in heartbreaking
pain.although I can watch Penny Serenade and if I live to be
1,000 I'll never watch Old Yeller again.
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PENNY SERENADE
BRIAN'S SONG (james caan version--tv, i know)
On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote:
THE YEARLING and BAMBI...? These would be ummm...deer to
my heart...
Sorry...
Patrick
On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Susan Heim wrote:
Can't forget "An Affair to Remember" and "Old Yeller."
Sue
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The endings of the following are along your lines Michael:
I Want to Live
Exodus
The Diary of Anne Frank
United 93
One Potato Two Potato
Life is Beautiful
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