I enjoyed it and the audience I saw it with loved it.  Yes, it had its flaws, 
but to see a hero lead that's over 60?  That alone kicks ass.

Toochis


----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Indiana Jones - SPOILER ALERT

 well  we can  find flaes in almost all films... But this one was nice in
the fact that It was a good picture in many ways... and it was a picture
that was a family film... and good old Fun... and  sure there were some parts
where one might say what were they thinking there,,, well but heres the truly
funny part....

the film has many real things in it that are true.... yep.. the whole Mind
telepathy was and is true.. they use 
futurists and I forget the name  But they use telepathy to spot where people
are and the government has sponcered it for years,, and also.. the whole
alien thing.... If you read and watch all the UFO and reports
from the government and all its been said that for years they were reverse
engineering the devises..
there was crytal skulls found in peru... and there was a plot by Germany
to get religous relics as they thought they had powers.. Like they had the
spear that pierced Christ.. there was a book on the Nazi war relics.... and
it had that,,,, so waht Spielberg has done is show us some very deep connections
that appear whimsical in the format he did.. but are really centered on many
facts and research... hes expeosed to SETI and Friedman and many many facts
that common folk think is fables... But as they say TRUTH is stranger than
FICTION/// Its just that when you hear a smart college proffesor explain
quantum physics or I like to talk about what if i suggessted we string wires
from house to house all over the world... Most would consider YOU NUTS...
thats because creative people use whats known as the THIRD eye...
its like they can IMagine the possibilitie outside the box of normal 
comprehension...
thats why they invent or create... its like they get tapped into the what
could be logic... In that and Einstein touched on that
as does Phsisit Leiberman in his Book the GOD particle.. is that we are able
to be in diferant spaces
and dimentions and that ties in neaatly with Heaven and  life and future
eternity... and  thats why this space thing and aliens and mental enegy of
positive vs Bad all makes scientific sense in a peculier way.
 However when someone like spielberg trie to even touch on it... it comes
off as unbelievable and trite.
at the same time I think as a filmmaker he uses formulas that cause adrenilin
like Bugs , snakes, fear of heights and all that.. which is just good old
showmanship... Its a movie meant to bring some excitement and fun and scares
and laughs.. thats all... and it was presented in a manner that also touched
on some actual facts as strange as they may appear... even Jurrassic park
almost wrote the book on the DNA  reseach that is happening as they did find
tissue of froze mammoths,,  remember the HG well stuff was concisered sci
fi too yet artificial intellegence is almost here as the asnimov ROBOT from
Honda is showing....


dsonesheets wrote:

Me
too.  Honestly I didn't think this even deserved to be included in the Indiana
Jones canon.  Temple of Doom blew this one away.

I don't care if this thing is going to make thee hundred million bones. 
The original trilogy should have been kept holy by using one of Indy's favorite
lines: "They all belong in a museum!"  They should have been left alone. 
Now we have to allow this fourth film to taint the brilliance of the first
three.

SPOILERS BELOW!










Ok, first thing, which is also the WORST thing.  Aliens.  Come on Steven,
couldn't think of anything else up to Indy's standards of archaeology?  

Second thing.  What the heck was up with Mac (Ray Winstone's character)? 
First he's a good guy, one of Indy's best mates.  Well, nope, he's a bad
guy.  Then, oh wait a minute, he's really a good guy again.  Whoops, fooled
you again, he's really, really a bad guy. Then he dies.  Should have made
that last item first.  What a joke.

Third.  Harrison had none  of the gusto he once had.  Blame it on his age,
but he was trying to make it look easy, and instead made it look hard.  His
lines were delivered with none of the flair of the previous films.  The 
physicality
of the first three films were part of what made Indy Indy. Period.  This
movie didn't have it.  You could almost pick out his stunt double, because
they used him about a hundred times.

Fourth.  Shia Lebeouf.  What was his role exactly?  Apart from being named
"Mutt", and who's character is a mutt with no real pedigree.  Is this the
guy that's supposed to pick up Indy's hat at the end and be our new friendly
neighborhood archaeologist?  I'll pass thank you very much.

Fifth thing that should have put as number two:  Indy survives a nuclear
blast by hiding in a refrigerator.  What!?!?  Was this an attempt at a gritty
Jason Bourne 'do what it takes to survive' moment?  

Lastly.  How about a coherent script.  First it's a warehouse raid, then
a nuke going off, then back to school, throw in Jim Broadbent to replace
Denholm Elliot (RIP), then Indy gets fired, meets up with the son he never
knew he had, finds a rickity, insane John Hurt, throw in a chase with cars
and a mutant army of man-eating red ants, which culminates in a crystal skull
that is really an alien, who finally meets up with (sorry, "Returns" to)
his six buddies who then fly their spaceship back to Mars.

Wish I would have saved my seven bucks, and imagined a movie far better than
this grab for a little extra franchise payout.  Had to rinse out the aftertaste
of this one.  




On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:00 PM, channinglylethomson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Saw
it yesterday.  Thought it was a real dud!  Channing


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