OMG, I would LOVE to see today's golfers have to use the old equipment!

We always hear about how great and superior these current athletes are
to past greats.

I'm with you, John...let's see.

Patrick

ps: I think Tiger would likely welcome it and probably challenge everyone on the
tour to use a miniature golf putter.


On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John Reid wrote:

The problem I see with modern films is that the plot is often secondary to many other factors, like who will be starring in the movie, the budget, or the concept - eg "let's make a new Batman movie - we'll think about the plot later". If you take away the visual aspects of The Dark Knight and
just talk about the story it all seems pretty thin to me. Gotham City
versus a bunch of criminals led by The Joker with Batman as the only
saviour - good vs. evil, etc etc. There really isn't much more to it than
that.

I really would like to see someone challenge one of the great modern
directors to come up with a box office success on a low budget. If they
took something like this on then the script would suddenly be far more
important.

As to Patrick's question, I can't remember the name of the director that Patrick is referring to in the 40s but I'm sure someone on this list will have the answer. I do recall that in the 60s or 70s Sydney Pollack had a reputation for always going way over budget. From memory, he made a deal with a studio to make a picture on a set budget but he ended up having to
mortgage his home to complete the project.

David's point about Peter Jackson is also interesting. I wonder what he
could achieve now on a very low budget.

Re Patrick's other comment, the wooden rackets would be interesting to see but I think technology has had even more impact with golf. I'd like to see Phil Mickelson play a round of golf with a set of clubs from the 60s with
only one wedge. He might not be able to break 80 on a lot of courses.

Regards
John

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I believe John's post was designed to challenge whether our most
successful film directors today -- are capable of "going back to making
films on the cheap" as most at one time did.

But I your reply was on the mark -- esp. your comparisons to "Duel" (a
TV-movie released theatrically overseas) and "Memento," an indie film
throughout. Spielberg demonstrated he could in fact "go back" in 1993 -- after a string of classic blockbusters (and some duds in between). And I
believe he was "indulged" by Universal because he always intended to
deliver the $65 million "Jurassic Park" -- which was briefly the #1 box office hit of all time -- the same year as his $22 million "Schindler's." In interviews, Spielberg later acknowledged his track record enabled him
to make a Holocaust picture few would finance, and that he himself
intended "Schindler's" to be a "non-fiction novel," an "artifact" -- told
in a style akin to Truman Capote's, "In Cold Blood" and author Thomas
Kenneally's own source material, "Schindler's Ark."

Good points, though, Patrick.




Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:42:57 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re:
Can a major director shoot an "epic" on a low budget?To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], clearly you did not read my response to
John's original post.  Here is what I posted in reply:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

John:

And I'd like to see Federer, Nadal, the Williams Sisters, etc. play a
tournament with wooden rackets. The problem is that there is no incentive
for highly successful filmmakers to go 'guerilla' on us to prove your
point. They could most likely do it. Spielberg made DUEL for $450,000 in 1971 which was likely about $200,000 in 1960 dollars and Christopher Nolan made MEMENTO for $5,000,000 40 years after PSYCHO which was likely close
to $1,000,000 in 1960 dollars.  Point being, we expand to our budgets
personally and professionally. These guys are filmmakers no less than Hitchcock was. All nostalgia aside, John, I think your question is still interesting but I'd like to extend it to the group in this fashion where a
certain Director did exactly what you propose:

In the 1940's, a director sought to prove to the studios that he could produce a film within the system on budget and on time. He not only came
in on time but was under budget:

What was the film's title?  And who was the Director?

Those who know me have a built-in advantage.
Patrick

ps: I'm completely serious about wanting to see a 'wooden racket' tennis
tournament!


On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:35 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:
** Spielberg did this 15 years ago. He began shooting what was thought to
be an "unbankable" Holocaust picture in March 1993 -- that made it to
theaters by December. It took him 10 weeks, cost $22 million, a pittance by Spielbergian standards, 33-years after "Psycho." He ended up with a three hour, "mostly" black-and-white picture with no zooms, steadicams,
cranes or "Spielberg camera tricks," near zero post-production time.
"E.T" was the only other Spielberg release considered made on the "cheap" for $10 million, but that was in 1982. The budget for "The Dark Knight" is said to be $180 million plus. I doubt Spielberg himself could shoot a modest "epic" in many locations for under $30 million today, unless it was a documentary w/less expensive foreign production crews. ** What would be intriguing, though, which gets to your point -- is whether Spielberg
could do a "Sundance-type" film in the U.S. -- with no stars or sets,
armed only with a talky script.  Oscar-winning director Peter Jackson
shoots his action films "down under" because of cost. Imagine how much they'd cost if shot in the U.S.? This is why I'm extremely curious with what Jackson will do with his next film, "The Lovely Bones" (now in post production), which is based on the 2002 mega-bestselling book by Alice Sebold -- a modest "talky" story about a small American town -- narrated
throughout by a 14-year old girl who's murdered on page one.   -kuz.>
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Knight this afternoon and although it > was reasonably entertaining I have
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throwing truckloads of money into the project and > relying almost totally on whiz bang special effects and mass destruction of > cars, buildings etc etc.> > I also thought that it was a little remiss of the director that in a number > of scenes it was very hard to hear what Gary Oldman was saying. I actually > have no idea what he said in the fairly key final scenes,
bearing in mind > that his were the last words of the movie, and the
people I saw the movie > with made the same comment.> > In 1960 Hitchcock made a movie with his TV crew for a budget of under a > million dollars and shot the film in a matter of weeks. If it hadnt been for > the shower scene, he would have completed the project even quicker. I would > like to see one of the major directors like Spielberg, or Christopher Nolan, > make a film with a low budget and see what they could come up with.> > Regards> John> > Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia:> http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=account&go=register> > Visit my
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